the CONSTITUTIONAL parts of government. Every part of government NOT
listed in the Constitution would have to be eliminated, and we'd have
to convert our military from being an imperialistic show of force
spread over the world like the Roman Empire, to a small, efficient,
and DEFENSIVE military that never takes any action other than to
defend America against direct attacks.
--- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Another f problem with their arguments, is they say government is
> necessary so thus taxes are necessary. For the sake of argument we
> say the first is true, why in the world would the second be true, it
> does not make sense. food and water is a necessity but we don't have
> a right to force others to pay for our food and water. They use the
> public good argument saying everyone enjoys the benifit of government
> so thus taxes are necessary. Ok for the sake of argument we give
> them that government is a public good but how in the world does that
> demand taxes. A pretty women walks into a public building, every man
> enjoys the benifit of her good looks but they don't owe her money.
> This same pretty women is also a good cook and invites all the men to
> supper, eating is a necessity and she is offering to feed them, so
> durning the meal or after the meal why should she have a right to
> demand the men pay her for the food they had
> eat?
> 2004 fiqures on imports show less than 1.5 trillion dollars in
> imports, Pauls 3% traiff on 1.5 trillion would bring 45 billion in
> revenue. Total income in the country is around 10 trillion dollars,
> 45 billion be less than half of a percent on national income, if only
> half the people gave an equal percentage donation it would take less
> than 1% of their income, if only 25% gave it would be 1.8% of income
> or less than 700 dollars a year for an average wage earner. If only
> 10% gave that would be 4.5% of income around 1,660 dollars for the
> average wage earner, the request could be for 3,000 dollars a year
> but donations above 3,000 would be refused so to not give the rich a
> possible upper hand It is very reasonable to suspect that the natural
> leaders could convince at least 10% of Americans to give 3,000
> dollars a year to government, if they can't then you are not going to
> have a honest government anyway so there is no point in having a
> public instition called government. Of course many would give less
> than 3,000 a year, probally a majority would give something.--- In
> [email protected], "kiddleddee" <kiddleddee@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK.
> > >
> > > I believe I have figured out Paul's argument.
> > >
> > > He starts with a premise that not all taxes are aggression.
> > >
> > > He then continues with tariffs are a form of non-aggressive taxes.
> > >
> > > Next he concludes that since tariffs are not an act of
> aggression,
> > they are allowed by libertarian philosophy as they do not
> contradict
> > the NAP.
> > >
> > > If his premises were true his conclusion would be true since his
> > argument is logically valid.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately his first premise is false.
> >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Boyd, nice argument against the substance of Paul's argument. But
> > that leaves the hysterical portion of his argument - the one that
> all
> > statists fall back on when they find themselves in a contradictory
> > mass of tangled logic. "The Constitution says government can levy
> > tariffs so love it or leave it." This is the second argument we
> have
> > been having with Paul. Nothing logical about it, but it's a
> > particular version of the fall back position for all (United State
> of
> > Americans, at least) who can't otherwise defend their assault of
> > liberty.
> >
>
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