Re: [Libertarian] Re: Article 1. sec. 9

Tue, 02 May 2006 13:11:39 -0700

It is really unclear.  Several problems are now apparent.  We are trying to argue a document that was written 200 years ago when language was different and all of the original writers are dead for over a 150 years.  So we are in the position of trying to divine intent from other writings by them and their contemporaries.  A bad situation.

BWS

----- Original Message -----
From: terry12622000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 1:26 pm
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Article 1. sec. 9

> A person needs to look how and if the clause fits in with the rest
> of
> section 9, so you may have a point.--- In
> [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It mentions paying a DUTY for imported persons.
> >
> > Main Entry: 1du·ty
> > Pronunciation: 'dü-tE also 'dyü-
> > Function: noun
> > Inflected Form(s): plural duties
> > Etymology: Middle English duete, from Anglo-French dueté, from Old
> > French deu due
> > 1 : conduct due to parents and superiors : RESPECT
> > 2 a : obligatory tasks, conduct, service, or functions that
> arise
> from
> > one's position (as in life or in a group) b (1) : assigned
> service
> or
> > business (2) : active military service (3) : a period of being
> on
> duty
> > 3 a : a moral or legal obligation b : the force of moral obligation
> > 4 : TAX; especially : a tax on imports
> > 5 a : WORK 1a b (1) : the service required (as of an electric
> machine)
> > under specified conditions (2) : functional application : USE <got
> > double duty out of the trip> (3) : use as a substitute <making the
> > word do duty for the thing -- Edward Sapir>
> > synonym see FUNCTION, TASK
> > - off duty : free from assignment or responsibility
> > - on duty : engaged in or responsible for an assigned task or duty
> >
> >
> >
> > In this case that revers to a tax on imported GOODS.  This
> refers to
> > slaves.  The word "slave" doesn't need to be used, becase the word
> > duty refers to a tax on a property to be imported.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote:
> > >
> > > But neither section 8 nor section 9 mention slaves at all.  In
> fact
> > section 9 specificly mentions persons.  Do you have a source for you
> > interpretation.  Otherwise it would be best to go with the words as
> > written.  Unless we can find some evidence of meaning of terms
> > drifting as what happened with the word 'regulated' in the 2nd
> amendment.
> > >
> > > BWS
> > >
> > > From: Paul <ptireland@>
> > > > Wrong.  It means after 1808, Congress may place prohibitions
> on
> the
> > > > states in regard to the transport and importation of slaves, not
> > > > immigration.  Migration is not immigration.
> > > > --- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr"
> <HRearden@>
> > > > wrote:>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Although the section of the article was refering to slaves
> the
> > > > > wording of it means that after the year 1808 Congress can
> place
> > > > > prohibitions on states in regard to migration. After 1808
> in
> fact
> > > > > Congress did enact legislation prohibiting slaves from
> being
> > > > > transported to the U.S.A. Congress because of Article I
> sec.9
> can
> > > > > plase prohibitions on immigration. The part about a duty
> being
> > > > > imposed on importation of persons is useless because
> slavery
> and
> > > > > indentured servtitude have been abolished and thus people
> are
> no
> > > > > longer transported to the U.S.A. as slaves or indentured
> > servents as
> > > > > payment for their passage. After 1808 it was illegal to
> transport
> > > > > slaves to the U.S.A.
> > > > >
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