forum.
Attack messages, NOT messengers in THIS forum!
Stop and consider BEFORE reacting; so that I can continue to trust
you to self-moderate :)
-Terry Liberty Parker
Owner/moderator,
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian
--- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Why are you talking about Zygotes Paul, your moving farther and
> farther back in the process. Why? Because your afraid its to
obvious
> from what end of your anatomy you are speaking?
>
> --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> >
> > A zygote is not a human being. It does not posess human life.
it
> has
> > the POTENTIAL for human life, but does not have it. Separate DNA
> does
> > not amount to human life. A fetus is not a whole human being. A
> > whole human being is a fully sentient person and a fetus is not.
We
> > can use Terry's definition of person if you choose.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > A sperm cell is not human life but it has the potential to be,
a
> > > human egg cell is not human life but it has the potential to be
> so.
> > > A human fetus is not a piece of one human whole such as your
> arm, it
> > > is itself a human whole. You would be wiser to cop out and
> follow
> > > Terry's lead of personhood, as a human fetus is human. If you
> sever
> > > your arm its self mutilation, suggesting problems that I am not
> > > trained to deal with.
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My arm is a human arm. It has human DNA, and it's alive. If
> I
> > > sever
> > > > my arm, have I murdered someone? Human life is different
from
> any
> > > > other. Human life belongs to people (aka persons).
> > > >
> > > > Here are a list of things that do NOT qualify as HUMAN life.
> > > >
> > > > A beating heart
> > > > A cerebral cortex
> > > > A nervous system
> > > > Human DNA
> > > > Reflexive Actions or response to painful stimuli
> > > > Head, Torso, Hands, Feet, Fingers, Toes, Eyes, Ears, Nose, or
> Mouth
> > > > The shape of a human being
> > > >
> > > > An acorn is not an oak tree but it has the POTENTIAL to be
> one.
> > > Dough
> > > > is not bread, but it has the POTENTIAL to be. A fetus is not
> a
> > > human
> > > > being but it has the POTENTIAL to be one.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit"
> <uncoolrabbit@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On what basis do you feel it apropriate to twist, contort
> and
> > > > > outright lie about my statements Terry? I attribute
HUMANESS
> to
> > > the
> > > > > fetus Terry. The response was to Paul, who does not merely
> argue
> > > > > that a fetus does not fit a definition of personhood. Paul
> > > outright
> > > > > claims that a human fetus is not human despite the fact
that
> it
> > > is
> > > > > indead a human fetus, not a baboon fetus, not an antelope
> fetus
> > > not
> > > > > anything like that. My post remains below yours to remind
> you
> > > that
> > > > > not once did I use the word Personhood in it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker"
> > > <txliberty@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On what basis do you assert that the property of
> personhood be
> > > > > > attributed to a pre-born human individual?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please see what I wrote in this forum as
> > > > > > 'PERSONHOOD: Abortion & beyond'
> > > > > > at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/48100
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker
> > > > > > http://profiles.yahoo.com/txliberty
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit"
> > > <uncoolrabbit@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A much better statement of yourpoint of view than
> recently,
> > > but
> > > > > > > you "obviously are trying to" strip the human atrribute
> from
> > > a
> > > > > > human
> > > > > > > organism, just as the slaver or the fascist before
> you. :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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