Terry,

I disagree and agree. You claim birth no longer qualifies as
criteria for Constitutional personhood, and then name your own
preferences. I do not disagree with yours; I only remind you that
they all result from the dramatic changes that took place at
birth. No matter if premature, c-section, or whatever, the
required fetal transformations are still kicked in by cutting its
cord and introducing it into the atmosphere.

-Mark




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I think that the 'birth' as criteria for Constitutional
'personhood'
was adopted as a matter of convenience; a clear delineation
commensurate with that time's technology. 

These days, human babies can be prematurely born by months.  And
some
are naturally born 'brainless' (sans brain).  Upon birth a human
is
still VERY dependent on others for basic life support.  What
effect
might this lack of material 'agency' have on transendendly
moral 'personhood' (not just what is legal now)

Here are *my* 'tentative' COMBINED criteria for
who or what gets to be regarded as a person:

sentience- ability to consider essential
information about one's environment
(surroundings, situation and so on)

agency- power to act in one's environment

conscious volition- free will to intervene between
stimulus and response by making meaningful choices;
without which one can not be 'responsible' for
one's actions that interface with other persons

Imo, 'personhood' is about individual sovereigns
(whose 'domains' are their own bodies and
justly held possessions) being free moral agents;
which still leaves room for acts of compassion   :)

Domains http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/30419

Morals http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/37899


-Terry Liberty Parker
PERSONHOOD: Abortion & beyond
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/48351





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