Uncool, you wrote:
"The unfortunate reality of reality is that it is clear cut nor
is it black and white."
For this reason, I virtually never read past your first line;
because it is immediately apparent that you NEVER proofread your
posts or care to communicate effectively. 
-Mark

 

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The unfortunate reality of reality is that it is clear cut nor is
it 
black and white.

As per former secretary of treasury Paul O'Niel the decision to
go 
to war was made while George Bush was President Elect, before he 
took office. The basis, from Mr. O'Niel's observation was the
idea 
developed by Rice, Cheney, Rumsfield and Bush that "rouge
nations" 
were the greatest threat to US supremecy over the world. The
aleged 
idea was that overwhleming force used against a "rouge nation"
would 
serve to discourage the 'rouge nations' 'rouge' behavior.

The decision to target Iraq over other options was made with out 
O'Niel's involvment so he could not comment on that rational, but

the decision was made. Reasons to justify it were then sought out
by 
the adminstration, CIA cheif Tenent was the main party
responsible 
for finding cause to wage the war that Bush and his closest
advisors 
had already set there mind on having.


One of the largest problems I have with this assesment is 
Afghanistan, if the goal had been to set an example then
Afghanistan 
should have been sufficient. The agenda was not to set an
example, 
the agenda was to invade Iraq. The most absurd reality, is that
the 
result was the exact oposite of the aleged desired effect. With
the 
armed forces bogged down in Iraq, and the US Army proportedly
broken 
those 'rouge nations' have become more emboldened. Iran stepped
up 
its enrichment program and is unshakably defiant, North Korea had

its flare up of defiance, China has become more assertive in its 
claim of dominion over Taiwan. Mr. O'Niel often pondered the fact

that the discussion was always how will we go to war with Iraq
and 
never why.  

Regaurdless of wether the agenda was deterance or not, what is
clear 
is that it was not clear and presetn danger, nor eminant threat
that 
promted the war in Iraq. I could go on and on about my own
Senetor, 
Carl Levon the senior member of the Armed Forces Comitte in the 
Senate how ever I thought the thoughts of a former high level
Bush 
aid and long time Republican would be of more value. 

--- In [email protected], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rep. Paul has made a logical and thoughtful argument against
what 
he believes to be an initiation of aggression in Iraq.  His
stance 
is principled.  The only question to me is whether or not the 
conflict in Iraq is a case of legitimate reaction to a credible 
threat of aggression or not.  No one has been able to make a
clear 
cut case in either direction.
> 
> BWS
> 



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