Well, no Mark, I do not. See, again you are making assumptions based on
something you *read*.

I will give you two points to consider. This area is SO DRY that, between
1910 and 1948 (approx) LDS citizens of Blanding drilled a tunnel through a
rock mountain 1 1/2 miles long with picks and dynamite and removed the rock
with a mule. This was so the snow melt could travel from one side of a
mountain to another, to be used for drinking water. The water runs as a
small stream. They did it without pay and provided the equipment. That is
how much they needed a stream of water, still used today.

The second is that 100% of the businesses, ranches and hay farms are owned
my 49% of the people...Caucasian LDS. The remaining 51%, Navajo and Ute, do
not own businesses. When they try, they are pushed out.


On 6/27/06, mark robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>    John,
>
> Do you agree that you omitted another reason for the economic
> depression of the area: the existence of long-term aid (welfare,
> treaty, reparations, or what ever name you wish to call it)? Do
> you agree that aid plays ANY role in depressing ambition to
> develop business?
>
> -Mark
>
> ************
>
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>
>
> Well there are a few reasons Urmas.
>
> The area is largely dominated by the LDS. They hare doing well
> financially,
> well enough to be middle class. The LDS have a long tradition of
> doing
> business with LDS only. As I said, there are no jobs. The few
> times I know
> of that Ute people tried businesses, as when they made and sold
> crafts, they
> were exploited by LDS businessmen who bought ar shockingly low
> prices and
> sold high, not benefiting the Ute.
>
> Second, this is, as I said, the least densely populated area of
> the
> continental USA. The Ute did well as hunter gatherers and traders
> until the
> 1920's then their land was taken from them and they were forced
> onto this
> reservation. There is no local demand for commerce.
>
> Third, the Ute reservation is separated my 25 miles south and 15
> east from
> the closest towns. There is no public transportation. The land is
> desert,
> which is now experiencing a 10 year drought. Even before that, it
> was not
> suitable to farm.
>
> Forth, the Ute are largely uneducated. I did a bit of research;
> between 1997
> and 2003, 148 students graduated 8th grade. 40 continued on to
> high
> school...the rest just never showed up. Anywhere else in the
> country the
> courts would have been involved in even one child being truant,
> but not
> here. Then, of the 40 who enrolled in High School, 6 graduated.
> Among the adults, reading and math skills are very uncommon.
>
> Fifth, computer literacy is very low, and poor people do not buy
> computers.
> That limits their ability to sell through the Internet.
>
> Sixth, the Government has cut most programs for education to the
> Native
> Americans and plans to cut even more. There is no money available
> for
> remedial education.
>
> That about suns it up. In a highly competitive area where these
> people face
> strong discrimination, there are no local resources and the level
> of
> education is below 8th grade, where there is no history of
> success, it takes
> time to educate people to find alternatives. My friend Mark
> suggests we just
> let them fend for themselves. That would give them no time at
> all.
>
>  
>



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