Tom Knapp wrote:
> The real gauge of how seriously LP members take non-initation
> of force was not the vote to ditch or keep the pledge. It was
> the passage of the new immigration plank.

Terry Parker wrote:
[ModeratorNote: Terry Parker did not write the following passage ]
> an incorporated organazation such as the national LP 
> advertises that it is against intiation of force and actually
> requires a pledge from  national members including top leaders
> that they also pledge then most of those national leaders start
> to adocate the intiation of force and talk a suffiecent number
> of members in a convention to also adocate intiation of force
> it would appear the leaders who adocated the intiation of
> force and the National LP as an organazation would be
> comitting fraud.

It would have been very helpful if you two had been at the convention.

55% of the delegates voted to eliminate the pledge.  That bylaws
change failed because 67% (2/3) was required to pass.  I spoke to many
people who voted to keep the pledge because they thought it referred
only to a prohibition of a violent overthrow of the government and not
to requiring that the entire platform reject incremental solutions.

I'm confident that if you two had been there to explain the "true"
meaning of the pledge to the delegates, the pledge would have been
successfully eliminated.

I look forward to seeing you in 2008.

Chuck Moulton

P.S. I voted for the minority report on the immigration plank.  But
even the majority report was not unlibertarian.  It simply did not
reject all government.









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