true the new immigration plank did not reject government but it still
was unlibertarian because it calls for intiation of force, especially
with the deleation of the right of secession plank because one could
make a case that if a property owner had a clear cut right and
accepted by the government to secede with their land, then the
federal government could set up such a immigration policy with
immigration stations if it gets the permission of the state
legislator in which it build the stations. You do not have to reject
government to have a libertarian immigration
policy.
Chuck, I'm glad you voted against it.--- In
[email protected], "Chuck Moulton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tom Knapp wrote:
> > The real gauge of how seriously LP members take non-initation
> > of force was not the vote to ditch or keep the pledge. It was
> > the passage of the new immigration plank.
>
> Terry Parker wrote:
> [ModeratorNote: Terry Parker did not write the following passage ]
> > an incorporated organazation such as the national LP
> > advertises that it is against intiation of force and actually
> > requires a pledge from national members including top leaders
> > that they also pledge then most of those national leaders start
> > to adocate the intiation of force and talk a suffiecent number
> > of members in a convention to also adocate intiation of force
> > it would appear the leaders who adocated the intiation of
> > force and the National LP as an organazation would be
> > comitting fraud.
>
> It would have been very helpful if you two had been at the
convention.
>
> 55% of the delegates voted to eliminate the pledge. That bylaws
> change failed because 67% (2/3) was required to pass. I spoke to
many
> people who voted to keep the pledge because they thought it referred
> only to a prohibition of a violent overthrow of the government and
not
> to requiring that the entire platform reject incremental solutions.
>
> I'm confident that if you two had been there to explain the "true"
> meaning of the pledge to the delegates, the pledge would have been
> successfully eliminated.
>
> I look forward to seeing you in 2008.
>
> Chuck Moulton
>
> P.S. I voted for the minority report on the immigration plank. But
> even the majority report was not unlibertarian. It simply did not
> reject all government.
>
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