What has he done in the way of helping the LP build a support structure for LP candidates? Why is it too much for the LP to give a list of our own members to our candidates? When is the LP going to do something for its candidates other than just patting them on the back, shaking their hand, and wishing them luck?
He is in a high position within the party. Perhaps he can answer why the pledge is no longer printed on the membership cards? Why is that Chuck? Why has the LP stopped printing the incredibly important and useful pledge on LP membership cards? --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul come on. I know for a fact that Chuck was deeply involved in > the recent overthrow campaign of numerous incumbent Pennsylvania > State Legislators, Republican and Democrat, who voted themselves a > midnight payraise. > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > I've donated to my own campaign and to others and spent years as an > > activist doing outreach booths. You're right though that the LP > needs > > people who do instead of just talk. What have you done besides talk > > Chuck? > > > > I'd like to see the LP get someone at high levels that gives > > candidates more than a handshake and a smile when they run. How > about > > at the very least giving them a list of the current members without > > charging for it? That seems like the very very very least we should > > be doing if not giving them free ads in our own newsletter, having > > party sponsored candidate training, etc. > > > > What are you doing to build this kind of support structure? > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Chuck Moulton" <chuck@> wrote: > > > > > > > We need both thinkers and doers. Principle without action, and > > > > action without principle, are both dead ends. > > > > > > Perhaps. But I see a whole lot of talkers and very few doers. > > > Talking in circles without any action is a collosal waste of > time. > > > We're topped off on principle... it's time to act. > > > > > > Eric is a doer. He travels around the country helping on > campaigns > > > and encourages others to get off their asses to volunteer and > donate > > > along with him. I don't agree with Eric on some philosophical > things > > > (like the Iraq war, George W Bush, etc.), but I have a lot of > respect > > > for him and we agree on libertarian issues a lot more than we > disagree. > > > > > > There are 740 members on this list. How many of them have donated > > > money to libertarian campaigns? How many have volunteered time? > If > > > that number is more than 25, I'd be astounded. > > > > > > My LNC colleague and friend Hardy solicited this list for help > getting > > > Libertarians elected to the state legislature in Vermont. It's > not a > > > pipe dream... it's realistically achievable with only a few > thousand > > > dollars. How many people donated? > > > > > > http://www.vtlp.org/news/blog02.asp?ProdCode=351142992006 > > > > > > I asked this group to volunteer 10 minutes each to help me > organize > > > college groups all over the country through Facebook. Want to > know > > > how many of you volunteered? Zero. > > > > > > http://www.facebooklibertarians.org/ > > > > > > LP headquarters has been soliciting volunteers for months to make > > > phone calls to voters through the ballot base software. How many > of > > > you helped? > > > > > > http://www.ballotbase.org/ > > > > > > Talking accomplishes nothing without action. I know all of you > want > > > to be the talkers hoping someone else will take the action. > Well, it > > > doesn't work. YOU need to take the action. > > > > > > Every minute you spend debating philosophy here is a minute > you're not > > > spending helping Libertarians get elected and a minute you're not > > > spending moving public policy in a libertarian direction. > > > > > > Eric got the quote wrong. What I actually said was: > > > "I'd rather have 1 Eric Dondero out walking polls for libertarian > > > candidates and petitioning for libertarian initiatives than 1,000 > Paul > > > Irelands arguing about who is the purest libertarian." > > > > > > And I stand by that statement. > > > > > > Everyone has either time or money they can donate to the > libertarian > > > movement. Some people have both. I respect that not everyone can > > > donate money, but it saddens me to see people argue because it > clearly > > > demonstrates they have time they could be donating but prefer to > > squander. > > > > > > Please keep in mind the following libertarian mantra (10 words, 2 > > > letters each): > > > If it is to be, it is up to me. > > > > > > Chuck Moulton > > > Vice-Chair, Libertarian National Committee > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
