This may be a good time to talk of 'acoustic aggression'   :)  

A column of air is physically forced against your ear in order for 
you to hear a sound.  Consent in normally presumed, in most common 
physical areas, for people to start a conversation at 'normal' levels 
of intensity.  In most such 'public' places it is an 'assualt' under 
even the law of the land if one continues to attempt to talk to you 
when you have explicitly withdrawn your consent.  

Formal work requires my attention now; More later   :)  

-Terry Libery Parker 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 


--- In [email protected], "ma ni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Vic,
> 
> If you are talking about verbal / speech / talking, you are
> essentially correct; except if it involves things like threats of
> violence and fraud and yelling "fire" in a theatre etc. Speech is
> not inherently violent, so it doesn't qualify as physical
> aggression. If it did, you would be in trouble for verbalizing
> your advocacy of worldwide warfare.
> 
> -Mark
> 
> +++++++++++++ 
> 
> 
> Terry L Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > That does not necessarily describe an atomistic society with no
> 
> > interactions between these 'sovereign domains'  It just means
> that 
> > any physical interaction must be CONSENSUAL rather than the
> only 
> > alternative option, COERCIVE.  Libertarians advocate a
> 'consensual 
> > society' over the 'coercive society' of authoritarians.  
> > 
> > Libertarianism's 'physical aggression truce' premise (aka 
> > NAP 'non-aggression principle' & ZAP 'zero aggression
> principle')
> > thus accommodates a just and broad array of choices by 
> > free moral agents EXCEPT for the INITIATION, or credible threat
> 
> > of initiation, of physical force against the person 
> > or justly acquired possessions of another. 
> 
> 
> no one answered the question, so I am going to repeat it.
> according to this, libertarians are allowed to browbeat and bully
> anyone
> into doing anything so long as it doesnt involved physical force
> or
> fraud. is that correct?
> 
> Vic
>





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