Call-In TV this Weekend: exploring a 'World Wide Mind' & more
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerryLiberty/message/374
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--- In [email protected], "Susan Hogarth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 1/19/07, David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > In real world in 1788, NOTA was not an option for the American
people
>
> I think the choices you presented:
>
> "Would you have rather been ruled by the British, French or Spanish
> monarchies or the merciless Indian savages?" vs US federalized
> government
>
> were not the only choices at that time. In fact, many Amricans lived
> fairly free until Washington crushed them in the Whiskey rebellion
> (damn that Alexander Hamilton!!!)
>
> > ...
> > We will never restore liberty until we can successfully cope with
reality.
>
> I take your point, and I agree, but not in the way I think you mean
> it. Think of this: facing the cold, savages may have only had the
> 'realitistic' choices of 'huddle in the cave, freeze, or wrap yourself
> in animal skins'. But some thought of more choices - and learned to
> control fire. Some thought of other choices - and learned to make
> cloth.
>
> Humans shape our own realities. We will never be really free until we
> can envision freedom in the way that the first savage to control fire
> envisioned a hearth and a firepit and fuel and the other things and
> skills neccessary to maintain fire safely.
>
> Our job - one of our jobs - is to help people look beyond the obvious
> 'realistic' choices to a deeper realism - the one man creates for
> himself.
>
> > This in no way implies that we should not have and
> > continue to promote ideals as you are doing quite well.
>
> Thank you, David. I enjoy your comments, and appreciate that you can
> have a heated discussion without becoming angry.
>
> --
> Susan Hogarth
> http://www.colliething.com
>
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