On 1/19/07, David Macko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In real world in 1788, NOTA was not an option for the American people
I think the choices you presented: "Would you have rather been ruled by the British, French or Spanish monarchies or the merciless Indian savages?" vs US federalized government were not the only choices at that time. In fact, many Amricans lived fairly free until Washington crushed them in the Whiskey rebellion (damn that Alexander Hamilton!!!) > ... > We will never restore liberty until we can successfully cope with reality. I take your point, and I agree, but not in the way I think you mean it. Think of this: facing the cold, savages may have only had the 'realitistic' choices of 'huddle in the cave, freeze, or wrap yourself in animal skins'. But some thought of more choices - and learned to control fire. Some thought of other choices - and learned to make cloth. Humans shape our own realities. We will never be really free until we can envision freedom in the way that the first savage to control fire envisioned a hearth and a firepit and fuel and the other things and skills neccessary to maintain fire safely. Our job - one of our jobs - is to help people look beyond the obvious 'realistic' choices to a deeper realism - the one man creates for himself. > This in no way implies that we should not have and > continue to promote ideals as you are doing quite well. Thank you, David. I enjoy your comments, and appreciate that you can have a heated discussion without becoming angry. -- Susan Hogarth http://www.colliething.com
