Good semantical point, Cory, but then I could point out that Jefferson was 
actually talking about unalienable rights, or would that seem to be a bit 
facetious? I'm having a hard time getting serious about this discussion, partly 
because this is not simply an intellectual exercise for me. It involves a lot 
of experience, mistakes, and  ---- I quit. I'm going back to taking some idiot 
P.E.T.A. nuts apart so that I don't have to think too much along this line. 
I'll be back tomorrow. Again, its great to find an educated group on the 
internet who are willing to think and defend their positions without getting 
personally insulting and/or profane. Thanks to all of you!

Cory Nott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:          Ken,

An individual cannot "lose his freedoms" or give up his rights. He can
choose not to exercise them, or be forcibly prevented from exercising them.
This is what is meant by "inalienable rights." 

Cory

From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ken Brewer
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Survey

OK, Susan, your point then is that no war was necessary to create or 
defend this country. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that. 
Furthermore, I believe that they will be necessary in the future in 
order for us to maintain even a semblance of a free society. My point 
about Washington was that, even though he commanded a "volunteer" 
army, they lost their freedom once in. An Army can be run no other way 
and be expected to win a war. I'l close with a little motto that was 
engraved on untold numbers of Zippo lighters: 

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