What are you saying, that it's a good thing to be 19th?  Are you saying 
that loss of freedmen is something that you find acceptable?  How much 
of a police state to you favor?

How much of a police state would a libertarian find acceptable?

Steve

Bob Giramma wrote:
> 
> 
> I read elsewhere the US loses many points for its quasi-police state 
> policies associated with the wars. That's typical of all nations at war, 
> as they tighten up security in response to threats -- both real and 
> perceived. For example, Israel would be ranked far higher if they didn't 
> have war imposed on them every day of their existence. Switzerland is 
> fortunate to be surrounded by advanced and civilized people these days, 
> making freedom a lot easier.
> 
> From: Peter
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 6:36 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror
> 
> And if you look at the Indiividual Freedom rank, US is down at 19.... 
> and several are tied at higher levels, so its 19th rank, not even 19th 
> country. Not very imporessive!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Giramma
> To: [email protected] <mailto:Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror
> 
> It looks like the US does quite well in the liberty rankings:
> http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html 
> <http://www.stateofworldliberty.org/report/rankings.html>
> http://www.freetheworld.com/ef_map.html 
> <http://www.freetheworld.com/ef_map.html>
> 
> The Middle East Muslim nations, not so well.
> 
> Switzerland has conscription military service.
> 
> From: Peter
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:13 AM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Giramma
> To: [email protected] <mailto:Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Stop the War FOR Terror
> 
> Yeah, Patriot act... Not to mention how foreigners are treated. 
> Guantanamo Bay? Waterboarding? Need I go on? You are looking through 
> some very heavily fogged glasses here. Look at freedom rankings etc. The 
> US not only is not at the top, but is going down the list in recent 
> years. You should be looking at Switzerland and others instead.
> 

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