On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:36:52 PST, shadow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11-Dec-04, Travis Pahl wrote: > > TP> because government spending by definition is a decrease in freedom. > > Says who?
Says everyone who has given it serious thought for a few minutes., > s>>>> I think what we've all lost sight of, in this pissing contest, is > s>>>> Rob's claim that the GOP would be easier to subvert/convert than the > s>>>> Democratic party. > > TP>>> I disagree. Look at what they do when they are in power? obviously > TP>>> Roberts view is wrong. > > s>> In other words, you believe the Democratic Party would be easier to > s>> subvert/convert than the GOP. I disagree. > > TP> No. In other words the republicans are not interested in smaller > TP> government. > > Which Republicans? The RNC, the state leaders, in your county, or the guy > down the street? The 99% of the ones that get elected. > Subverting or converting a party doesn't work from the top down. It works by > convincing the guys at the local precinct level who probably agree with you > on a number of points... probably more than your Democrat neighbors. If they already agree with me, why do they need me to convince them of something and what am I supposed to be convincing them of? And I actually find plenty of agreement with my Democrat neighbors (except the guy who I found the other day with a UN flag hanging in his window!) You continually assert that the democrats agree with me less but I have not found that to be true, nor have you convinced me it is true. > s>>>> If libertarians had spent the last 30 years attending GOP precinct > s>>>> meetings and getting their people selected rather than trying to form > s>>>> a third party, freedom would have been better served. > > s>> You don't take over a party from the top down, Travis. It's done from > s>> the ground up. It takes some time, but Ron Paul's supporters in Texas > s>> show that it can be done. > > TP> it could happen. Does not mean that it could happen everywhere. > > It WON'T happen if we don't try. Well I am not going to try, so 'we' are not going to try, therefore you might as well stop wasting your time as well. Travis _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
