To put it short, we do need you in the project. Commons is only a tribe if
you refuse to participate. You have been here discussing these issues for
quite a while now and leaving because you perceive a discussion/argument
to be personal doesn't seem to fit the person I understand you to be from
earlier discussions on this list and tomcat-dev.
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Ignacio J. Ortega wrote:
>
> >
> > Perhaps it would be a better idea to resolve this confusion together
> > before stating that you will veto? We don't need yet another set of
> > tribes.
> >
>
> Right!!, i dont want to initiate another tribe nor help on create it..
> Ted is right too, we can construct a proposal to be voted on ...
>
Yes we can construct a proposal, but you leaving pretty much ensures that
a 'tribe' is created. So please help us *prevent* this from being a tribe
and continute discussing this. And please don't take anything I write/say
as a personal attack, that is not the purpose of any of my emails.
Discussions are a good thing, arguments are even a good thing, ending a
discussion by taking your ideas and walking away is not a good thing for
anyone.
> I changed my mind, i dont want to block DBCP ....
> Nor bother you, with my itchs....
>
> i change my vote to -0
>
> I give up..
>
> Long live Commons tribe ... but not with me inside .. feel free to
> delete me from the mail list..
>
> See you on tomcat-dev where my real itches live....
>
> Saludos ,
> Ignacio J. Ortega
>
>
I'm saddened to see this so far into the discussion. Again, we are trying
to define something that is by it's nature difficult to define. For some
time now you have expressed an itch for helping projects work
cooperatively on shared code, and you have the experience and ideas to
make it happen here. One of the indicators to me that this was worthwhile
was that people from different projects were here working together ( and
even agreeing on occasion ) on defining what can/should be done and
different ways to do that. Please reconsider :)
David
