Hola David:
Dont worry, your message was not a problem for me but i'm so tired of
argueing about what i want from Commons ... English writing it's a time
consuming task for me, it's very boring to see how people in any
"comite" tends to see world describing circles around him... too many
"comites" on my life ...:)
Seeing nobody understand me and seeing the thing being slipped on a
direction i'm not interested at, i prefer to alleviate the wait until
Agora comes doing shareable components in Tomcat 3.3 :).
Not a problem dude, at least not a personal one and not with you in
either case..
Thanks for the interest.
Saludos ,
Ignacio J. Ortega
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: David Weinrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el: jueves 15 de marzo de 2001 20:48
> Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Asunto: RE: [VOTE] "prop02"
>
>
> To put it short, we do need you in the project. Commons is
> only a tribe if
> you refuse to participate. You have been here discussing
> these issues for
> quite a while now and leaving because you perceive a
> discussion/argument
> to be personal doesn't seem to fit the person I understand
> you to be from
> earlier discussions on this list and tomcat-dev.
>
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Ignacio J. Ortega wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > > Perhaps it would be a better idea to resolve this
> confusion together
> > > before stating that you will veto? We don't need yet
> another set of
> > > tribes.
> > >
> >
> > Right!!, i dont want to initiate another tribe nor help on
> create it..
> > Ted is right too, we can construct a proposal to be voted on ...
> >
>
> Yes we can construct a proposal, but you leaving pretty much
> ensures that
> a 'tribe' is created. So please help us *prevent* this from
> being a tribe
> and continute discussing this. And please don't take anything
> I write/say
> as a personal attack, that is not the purpose of any of my emails.
> Discussions are a good thing, arguments are even a good
> thing, ending a
> discussion by taking your ideas and walking away is not a
> good thing for
> anyone.
>
>
> > I changed my mind, i dont want to block DBCP ....
> > Nor bother you, with my itchs....
> >
> > i change my vote to -0
> >
> > I give up..
> >
> > Long live Commons tribe ... but not with me inside .. feel free to
> > delete me from the mail list..
> >
> > See you on tomcat-dev where my real itches live....
> >
> > Saludos ,
> > Ignacio J. Ortega
> >
> >
>
> I'm saddened to see this so far into the discussion. Again,
> we are trying
> to define something that is by it's nature difficult to
> define. For some
> time now you have expressed an itch for helping projects work
> cooperatively on shared code, and you have the experience and ideas to
> make it happen here. One of the indicators to me that this
> was worthwhile
> was that people from different projects were here working
> together ( and
> even agreeing on occasion ) on defining what can/should be done and
> different ways to do that. Please reconsider :)
>
> David
>
>
