On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 19:51 -0400, Matt Lee wrote:
> James John Eaton wrote:
> 
> > I have been following this and I agree with Clint. It is the job of the
> > client to censor what is submitted so that they are not found guilty of
> > any laws that may pertain in their country.
> 
> As of today, there are 0 clients that support this.
> 
> So, if you listen to a leaked song, today on Libre.fm... it'll appear on
> your profile. Which means that today, I could be subpoenaed for your
> information, or more, I believe. Which would include your email address,
> etc.

As I said before, all of those country's censorware is bypassable by
Tor, and while clients are still vulnerable to attacks related to what
they put on libre.fm itself, if they were to use the Tor network, there
are many ways of encrypted and anonymizing their data end-to-end.

If a client knows they will be under scrutiny, they will take care of
themselves. Making everyone look over their shoulder all the time is
useless and only serves to alienate potential users. We should take
every opportunity to guide users toward security, but the first rule of
security is knowing your threat model. If, in my threat model, my
scrobbles are not vital, then they aren't vital and I don't need to care
about them.

There's no way to keep all legal action away from libre.fm.  Even if the
site hosts a blocklist of scrobbles, what's to stop the MAFIAA from
getting a court order saying that libre.fm has to log who hits the
blocklist and send the data their way (ala torrentbox, was it)? 

The only way to keep the userbase secure is to make the users secure,
not the provider.

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