https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79811

--- Comment #11 from David Tardon <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> I'm sorry but your arguments either lack basic logic reasoning, are
> ignoring my replies altogether or are your pure personal opinions (which I
> won't discuss, obviously).

I am sorry too, but your only argument so far has been "some people could find
this convenient" (which is a personal opinion, btw). Handwawy "this-or-that can
easily be solved" as response to pointed problems with your proposal is not an
argument, _unless_ you show the solution too. And trying to marginalize my
arguments by saying that they lack basic logic reasoning suggests you do not
actually have any answers.

Btw, could you tell me which of my replies lack basic logic reasoning, which
are ignoring your replies and which are personal opinions?

> You are constantly mixing arguments against the
> Hibryd-PDF format instead of arguing against my particular proposal: "save
> instead of (or in addition to) export".

I think you have not read my response... Or are ignoring it. I will not repeat
it again.

> 
> The Hybird-PDF format is already here. Thanks God there's no need to argue
> with you about that.

That is the main point I tried to convey and you are unable (or unwilling) to
understand: what we call hybrid PDF is not a separate format. It differs from
normal PDF in a single way: somewhere inside the file there is an object stream
whose content is the original ODF. This does not make the PDF special in any
way. Object streams are normal feature of PDF: images are saved that way, for
example. IOW, as I have already repeated ad nauseam: the only way to
differentiate hybrid PDF from a normal one is to process it. There are no
special "bits" in the file header. A hybrid PDF _is_ a PDF. 

> Now I hope other people in LO come to read this and find my use case
> reasonable. I have explained all that's needed and I don't believe further
> discussing this with you is constructive at all.

I do not believe there is anything more to discuss either.

> Let me suggest you again
> to face proposals without hostility. There's absolutely no need for that.

Let me suggest you to face counter-arguments without being opinionated. There
is absolutely no need for that.

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