https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79811
--- Comment #12 from Aleve Sicofante <[email protected]> --- I thought you were just trolling, but I've searched a little bit and you actually have some responsibility in the development of LibreOffice. That's sad, and also sadly reflects the much commented "arrogant attitude of FLOSS developers". Hopefully you're not in charge of UX design (which is what this is all about, despite your diatribes about the Hybrid PDF format which are completely unrelated to the proposal). Hopefully, again, someone concerned with usability will understand my proposal and go about it constructively. I have nothing more to discuss with you. 2014-07-20 22:41 GMT+02:00 <[email protected]>: > *Comment # 11 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79811#c11> > on bug 79811 <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79811> from > David Tardon <[email protected]> * > > (In reply to comment #10 > <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79811#c10>) > > I'm sorry but your arguments either lack basic logic reasoning, are > > ignoring my replies altogether or are your pure personal opinions (which I > > won't discuss, obviously). > > > I am sorry too, but your only argument so far has been "some people could find > this convenient" (which is a personal opinion, btw). Handwawy "this-or-that > can > easily be solved" as response to pointed problems with your proposal is not an > argument, _unless_ you show the solution too. And trying to marginalize my > arguments by saying that they lack basic logic reasoning suggests you do not > actually have any answers. > > Btw, could you tell me which of my replies lack basic logic reasoning, which > are ignoring your replies and which are personal opinions? > > > You are constantly mixing arguments against the > > Hibryd-PDF format instead of arguing against my particular proposal: "save > > instead of (or in addition to) export". > > > I think you have not read my response... Or are ignoring it. I will not repeat > it again. > > > > > The Hybird-PDF format is already here. Thanks God there's no need to argue > > with you about that. > > > That is the main point I tried to convey and you are unable (or unwilling) to > understand: what we call hybrid PDF is not a separate format. It differs from > normal PDF in a single way: somewhere inside the file there is an object > stream > whose content is the original ODF. This does not make the PDF special in any > way. Object streams are normal feature of PDF: images are saved that way, for > example. IOW, as I have already repeated ad nauseam: the only way to > differentiate hybrid PDF from a normal one is to process it. There are no > special "bits" in the file header. A hybrid PDF _is_ a PDF. > > > Now I hope other people in LO come to read this and find my use case > > reasonable. I have explained all that's needed and I don't believe further > > discussing this with you is constructive at all. > > > I do not believe there is anything more to discuss either. > > > Let me suggest you again > > to face proposals without hostility. There's absolutely no need for that. > > > Let me suggest you to face counter-arguments without being opinionated. There > is absolutely no need for that. > > ------------------------------ > You are receiving this mail because: > > - You are on the CC list for the bug. > - You reported the bug. > > -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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