Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:36:26 -0400
From: Clinton Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD question
Chris and list,
OK, I've learned a lot in the past few days.
With regards to the Margi DVD-to-Go card: has anyone been able to get it
to work playing DVD files from the HD?
PLEASE read my other comments BELOW and look at:
http://www.digital-digest.com/nickyguides/piracy-info.htm
This is just my opinion, but I think the facts will back it up.
Thanks!
Regards,
Clinton Parker
Chris Kalos wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 May 2001, Clinton Parker wrote:
>
> > ....
> > NOTE: from what I've seen, the encrypting is mostly for PRICE
> > FIXING - NOT copy protection!!! - there's NOTHING (physically) that
> > prevents someone with a DVD writer from copying a DVD disk encryption
> > and all - that copy would play on ANY DVD player!!!! - just as I said
> > before, the movie companies are trying to control PRICES!! - WAKE UP
> > PEOPLE - IT IS NOT COPY PROTECTION - IT'S OUR RIGHTS THEY ARE STEALING -
> > DMCA is REAL BAD!!!!.
>
> Yes, DMCA is bad. However, there is a difference in terms of the
> Copy Protection. You can't burn a duplicate disk that easily, since the
> stuff available on the market is DVD-R General. You'd need the DVD-R
> Video disk to be recognized as one that the CSS descrambler should be used
> on. Ideally, you're right. Realistically, it's the same issue that early
> generation CD players had with CD-R's, where you have to pay an absurd
> amount extra per disk to play it anywhere (and not really anywhere,
> either, since many recent devices aren't CD-R capable, such as single
> laser DVD players)
> And it *is* copy protection. It's been taken to a sickening
> extreme, but it's copy protection. Good luck using the media that you
> paid for, right? Without backup capabilities, we're kinda stuck at the
> moment. That said, I'll be ripping my DVDs to DivX over time, and backing
> that up on hard disk, CD-R, and tape.
NO, IT IS NOT COPY PROTECTION!!!! If is were, then you would have NO
trouble copying a non-encrypted DVD to a DVD-R (and playing it back). I
don't know that much about DVD-R, but the issues you mention have
nothing to do with the encryption!!! The encryption is NOT processed in
the DVD-ROM player, thus you could potentially make a DVD disk that is
an exact copy of the encrypted disk (whether a drive or medium exists to
make this copy on I don't know enough to say, but I know that it is
possible to read the encrypted files off the DVD-ROM in the encrypted
format). I also understand that it is possible to playback the encrypted
files, copied from the DVD-ROM, on the HD. What if someone (and I am not
advocating this) sent those encrypted files to someone else (OK, it
might take some time, but as bandwidth increases this will be less and
less of an issue). That person could also play those files from their PC
(with the appropriate DVD software or hardware). Where is the copy
protection??? Copy protection would involve doing something that would
make it impossible (well difficult) to create a duplicate of the
original DVD disk (similar to the way this has been done with protected
software in the past). Encryption has NOTHING to do with this! It does
affect your ability to edit the DVD material - which is a different
issue.
PEOPLE WAKE UP!!! This and DMCA is all a PLOY by the movie industry to
allow them to do PRICE FIXING. Most other businesses (MS included) would
find themselves in court for this. Why is the movie industry able to do
this kind of PRICE FIXING and not find themselves in court (well
actually, this is, in some regards, in court in that the
constitutionality of DMCA is being challenged)???
PLEASE SEE:
http://www.digital-digest.com/nickyguides/piracy-info.htm
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