Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 02:45:28 +0200 From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Got it1!
I must agree with your opinions about Slackware. A friend of mine swears by it, and uses it professionally, for it's tweaking ability. It was my first "meeting" with Linux. It installed okay, but I didn't use the Xserver at that time, was already impressed with the text version. I heard people say awful things abt RH 7.x but it can be jealousy, RH is doing quite well in the market, you can't say that for the other distibutions.... Robbert > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 02:43 > To: Libretto > Subject: Re: Got it1! > > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:35:19 -0700 > From: "Jason Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Got it1! > > Well, as I understand it, RedHat 7.1 is at the center of a large libc > controversy, something about problems with backwards compatibility. I've > never had the courage to try it. And it's just a matter of personal taste > that I don't use 7.0, actually, so your mileage will vary for sure. :) Do > try RedHat 7.0 again with an updated version of XFree86. If you encounter > errors then, send them on over to the list; perhaps someone else > has seen it > before. > > The biggest downside to RedHat 6.1 is that it's pretty outdated at this > point. I planned to pare down my Libretto as a streamlined machine for > notes, organization, scheduling, and some gaming during boring > lectures. ;) > I just had to do a lot of tweaking and fudging to get things to > work right. > > I can't vouch for anything like the server version or the professional > version; I just performed my installs over the network. Free stuff. So I'm > sure RedHat 7.0 will probably be better for you (because it certainly is a > hassle to upgrade packages and juggle old software, I must admit). > Personally, I'll be installing slackware because it has better > options for a > real barebones install. > > -Jason > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 5:18 PM > Subject: RE: Got it1! > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 02:09:07 +0200 > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: Got it1! > > > > Thanks a zillion, Jace!!! > > > > will try again. > > > > If I understand correctly, are you saying that RH 7.0 and RH 7.1 are a > piece > > of shit, and is RH 6.0 much better or what?? > > > > What's wrong witht the sever version??? > > > > Cheers > > > > Robbert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jason Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 02:08 > > > To: Libretto > > > Subject: Re: Got it1! > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:59:23 -0700 > > > From: "Jason Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: Got it1! > > > > > > Install RedHat, but omit the XFree86 packages. Then visit > www.xfree86.org, > > > and follow the instructions. > > > > > > The basic procedure will be: > > > > > > - Download the basic install tools (Xinstall.sh, extract) and put > them > > > in a directory > > > - Download the base packages (in the README) like Xlibs.tgz, etc. > > > - Run the installer script (sh Xinstall.sh) > > > - Answer the prompts (or, hit return a lot of times) > > > > > > Also beware that XFree86 4.1.0 has a bad 3Dfx glide driver > > > module. Why does > > > this affect you? If you try to generate an XF86Config file by running > > > Xfree86 -configure, you will not be successful until you remove the > > > offending module. When XFree86 comes across an error, it stops > processing > > > the modules -- and all of them fail. This is all outlined in > the online > > > addendum. > > > > > > It's not a scary procedure at all. In fact, there are many pieces of > > > software that probably need to be updated. And just for reference, I > won't > > > install RedHat 7.0 (especially 7.1); I have 6.1 on my own machine > > > temporarily. Hope that helps. > > > > > > -Jason > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:28 PM > > > Subject: RE: Got it1! > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 01:21:28 +0200 > > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: RE: Got it1! > > > > > > > > Hi Jason, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your quick response. > > > > > > > > I certainly have my doubts about the Redhat 7.0 supplied > XFree server. > > > > > > > > How do I install RH Linux with XFree86 4.0.1 ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > Can that be done with a RPM files?? > > > > > > > > Should I just install the default RH 7.0, and afterwards > overwrite the > > > > original Xserver setup with XFree86 4.0.1?? > > > > > > > > How do I do that?? > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > Robbert > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Jason Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 00:28 > > > > > To: Libretto > > > > > Subject: Re: Got it1! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:20:55 -0700 > > > > > From: "Jason Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: Re: Got it1! > > > > > > > > > > RedHat runs perfectly on my Libretto 100CT, even with its > > > > > non-standard 800 x > > > > > 480 resolution. Did you try using XFree86 4.0.1 (i.e. not the > > > distribution > > > > > from the CD)? I highly customized most aspects of my system to fit > in > > > the > > > > > limited capacity of my Libby, but it runs much better than > > > > > Windows ever did. > > > > > I'm still not happy with it, and I'm going to wipe my > drive and put > > > > > slackware on it for better customization. > > > > > > > > > > You do know that X-windows is extremely slow and memory intensive > when > > > you > > > > > pile something like GNOME or KDE on top of it, right? I have 64 MB > of > > > RAM, > > > > > and I still find myself uncomfortably close to living out of swap > > > > > space when > > > > > I launch AbiWord. I just use WindowMaker to cut down on overhead. > > > > > > > > > > I haven't been following your messages, but what are the specific > > > > > errors you > > > > > are getting from the X server? > > > > > > > > > > -Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:08 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: Got it1! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 00:01:29 +0200 > > > > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Got it1! > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Neil, and others that might be insterested in reading about > > > > > my endless > > > > > > tryouts getting ANY version/distribution of Linux on my Libby, > > > > > that gives > > > > > me > > > > > > at least a fully working Xserver for a graphical User Interface. > > > > > > (I tried RedHat, installs SO EASY, but doesn't let me run the > > > > > Xserver for > > > > > > one strange reason or another PLUS floppydrive recognition. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm stressfully trying to install mandrake from your Mandrake > > > > > v7.1 CD, but > > > > > > it's a big disaster. > > > > > > I have never seen such unflexible and slightly stupid > > > > > installation menu's. > > > > > I > > > > > > LOVE Redhat..... > > > > > > > > > > > > What I did: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I have a Libby 70CT running DOS, with a driver installed > properly > > > for > > > > > > accessing an external CD rom. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I copied D:\MANDRAKE\BASE and D:\MANDRAKE\RPMS to > the C: drive > > > (20gb > > > > > HD) > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) I login to the CDrom drive (D:\), go to directory > > > > > D:\DOSUTILS\AUTOBOOT > > > > > > and start the AUTOBOOT.BAT file > > > > > > > > > > > > It starts copying stuff, and I get an installation menu > that asks > me > > > > > > from what kind of CDrom I want to install it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bly me, I want to install from the HARDDISK, why did I copy all > > > > > the stuff > > > > > to > > > > > > my HD for then?? > > > > > > > > > > > > How do I tell this low IQ installation routine to install > > > from HD, NOT > > > > > from > > > > > > CD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another try: > > > > > > > > > > > > I startup the HARDDISK.BAT batchfile, in > > > D:\DOSUTILS\AUTOBOOT\MDKINST > > > > > > I starts running, and a menu appears, I have to select the > > > > > partition that > > > > > > holds the MANDRAKE\BASE and the MANDRAKE\RPMS directories. > > > in my case > > > > > there > > > > > > is only one partition: /dev/hda1 > > > > > > Below it asks for the directory that holds the Linux Mandrake. > > > > > > I select the default, which is \ > > > > > > I click OK and.............. I get: > > > > > > "Error reading second stage ramdisk" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! > > > > > > > > > > > > Next distribution please, anyone???............ 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