Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 07:25:58 +0000
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Probhlem ASPI Layer files on 100CT

From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've been watching this thread with some interest in how it would turn out. Not
to throw cold water on any particular mp3 ripping software but has anybody
mentioned using nero for your mp3 needs? I use it on my L110 with W2K and find
it to be the easiest, simplest and BEST such software on the market. I use it on
my desktop as well with XP Pro and I again I find it performs flawlessly!
Nero is my favorite. I don't know why Easy CD Creator continues to be the most widely distributed CD burning software commercially. They must have good PR people. It's been said that Nero is too complicated for the average user. But I they have a version, I think Nero Express, that is very user friendly. Then there is the German WinOnCD Roxio bought a while back that's a good program for burning multi format multimedia files, though the old copy I had was pretty complicated.

I can't find information on what MP3 encoders the various CD burning programs use. But by using EncSpot MP3 Analyzer
http://cd-rw.org/software/audio_software/mp3_tools/encspot.cfm#download to list all of the encoders used to create MP3s people share on the net, the vast majority do >not< use LAME, which is widely accepted these days as the most accurate MP3 encoder. It's open code, coming out of some of the folks working on the GNU project.

It seems the very best, audiophile quality MP3s are mostly made with a combination of LAME, and Exact Audio Copy as described in the link in my other posts, http://www.ping.be/satcp/cd2mp3-en.htm and also in Chris Myden's article, http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/10012002d

There's also some interesting information on tests performed by a group of audiophiles on MP3s encoded with LAME at the r3mix website http://users.belgacom.net/gc247244/index.html Click on the 'Quality' menu selection on the left sidebar to access the audiophile test info.

I'm in the process of ripping 2 tracks, one classical and one pop, to 5 files using different LAME bitrates from 64kbps, 128kbps, --alt-preset standard, --alt-preset extreme, and --alt-preset insane. And will burn them to a music CD along with the raw music data from a WAV file made from each of the two tracks. The fun will come when I send them to a friend with a high end audio system who has always been under the impressing that MP3s were distorted music files worthy of avoiding at all cost.

I'll put each group of 6 files for each piece of music together in a random order when I burn them to a music CD. Then he'll play the CD in his system, and try to spot which tracks are the ones burned from compressed MP3s, and which are the 2 tracks burned from the lossless WAV files. Wish he was here in Florida, (as I'm sure a lot of people in the NE are probably wishing for themselves these days) so I could listen myself. But I'm going to guess that it's going to be tough for him to tell any difference between the music from the raw WAV file, and the 3 MP3s made using the LAME --alt-preset options.

The slowness of ripping these high quality MP3s though is beginning to bump up against laziness at o/cing this 100 is catching up with me. a 266MHz CPU would really cut down the encoding time.

Matt


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