At HP there is one set of open source licenses that gets more critical
pushback than any other, and the GPL is not in that set. It is the IBM
Public License (and its cousin the Common PL) and the Mozilla Public
License 1.1 (and its cousin NPL 1.1). That heightened scrutiny is due to
a single sentence -- a sentence which is now proposed to be added to the
Apache license as the first sentence of section 5:

"If You institute patent litigation against a Contributor with respect
to a patent applicable to software (including a cross-claim or
counterclaim in a lawsuit), then any patent licenses granted by that
Contributor to You under this License shall terminate as of the date
such litigation is filed."

Because the trigger of this termination is unrelated to the software
being licensed, (in contrast to the second sentence of section 5) there
is no good way to manage that termination risk. The addition of that
sentence would require an entirely new perspective on use of software
under the Apache license. Further, companies that consider incorporating
software under this license into a product that they will redistribute
will need to convince their customers that using software with this sort
of licensing contingency is a risk that the customer ought to take.

>From the list of goals, it appears that there may be belief that this
section somehow addresses goal 5: "It would be nice to have some
language in the license that protected us from patent-infringement
suits, at the very least from contributors if not in more general ways.
Solved in 2.0."

For any "us" that does not own a patent that applies to software
licensed under the Apache license, section 5 provides no benefit
whatsoever. The benefit provided by section 5 is a benefit that only
applies to patent owners: if you don't have a patent (in particular, if
you don't have a patent that applies to the Apache-licensed software),
then you aren't granting any license that is terminated by section 5;
section 5 gives you neither leverage nor other benefit. 

The first sentence of section 5 should be struck. It seriously burdens
the usability of software under the Apache license; and it does so
without advancing the goals of the ASF. 

-- Scott
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Scott K. Peterson
Senior Counsel
Hewlett-Packard Company

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