Hello,

It would be great to see some more bind examples in more
complex scenarios and how different snippets can work
together. How to build fragments and replace fragments
for ajax. I think the people that do a lot with lift have some
patterns for this. Are there any Idioms out.

This is my problem area.

with best regards


On 26 Dez., 15:30, Marius <[email protected]> wrote:
> While I admit that there is not yet enough documentation material or
> at least probably not in a single place I disagree with some
> complaints. The Lift book for example describes in quite detail that
> request processing lifecycle, disspath functions, rendering pipeline,
> LiftRules, S, SHtml, LiftResponse-s, binds,  JavaScript abstraction
> and many others etc. Sure new things came up in the mean time and
> we're trying to document them as time permits in many cases.
>
> About the Lift structure being too messy, what do you actually mean?
> AFAIK historically, people (a many newbies) asserted the contrary that
> they really liked the Lift concepts, the ease of use and understand
> how it works. For naming conventions there was a project opened and
> even discussed on this public list about renaming API's but AFAIK
> there was not a whole lot of feedback on this list so unless I'm
> wrong, the decision was to do ad-hoc renaming as we work on various
> things. This may mean deprecation of old names so there will be a
> smooth transition to "better" names.
>
> So I believe it is much more constructive for ALL of us to ask
> concrete questions, described concrete problems and let's see how we
> can fix it. Many things though may be subjective and leading to
> endless discussions without substance.
>
> Br's,
> Marius
>
> On Dec 26, 2:51 am, Erkki Lindpere <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think the best things I think you could do to help newbies is
> > document in a well-structured way:
>
> > * all the conventions over configuration rules
> > * what classes to use for the basic stuff (what is S for and how it
> > should be used, all the things you can do with LiftRules, etc.)
> > * more advanced uses of bind(...) in snippets
> > * better docs for the Lift tags.
>
> > On Dec 25, 9:09 pm, Timothy Perrett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > It would be really good for us as a team to know what it is you *dont*
> > > get? Is it conceptual? code? If we can understand what is daunting for
> > > newbies that would really be helpful.

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