Great stuff. Could you please describe "more complex scenarios" ? I
mean let's start from some step-by-step use-case/workflow definitions
that you're looking for and we'll try to provide different approaches,
and potentially put them on the wiki for future reference.

Br's,
Marius

On Dec 26, 6:27 pm, greekscala <hellectro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It would be great to see some more bind examples in more
> complex scenarios and how different snippets can work
> together. How to build fragments and replace fragments
> for ajax. I think the people that do a lot with lift have some
> patterns for this. Are there any Idioms out.
>
> This is my problem area.
>
> with best regards
>
> On 26 Dez., 15:30, Marius <marius.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > While I admit that there is not yet enough documentation material or
> > at least probably not in a single place I disagree with some
> > complaints. The Lift book for example describes in quite detail that
> > request processing lifecycle, disspath functions, rendering pipeline,
> > LiftRules, S, SHtml, LiftResponse-s, binds,  JavaScript abstraction
> > and many others etc. Sure new things came up in the mean time and
> > we're trying to document them as time permits in many cases.
>
> > About the Lift structure being too messy, what do you actually mean?
> > AFAIK historically, people (a many newbies) asserted the contrary that
> > they really liked the Lift concepts, the ease of use and understand
> > how it works. For naming conventions there was a project opened and
> > even discussed on this public list about renaming API's but AFAIK
> > there was not a whole lot of feedback on this list so unless I'm
> > wrong, the decision was to do ad-hoc renaming as we work on various
> > things. This may mean deprecation of old names so there will be a
> > smooth transition to "better" names.
>
> > So I believe it is much more constructive for ALL of us to ask
> > concrete questions, described concrete problems and let's see how we
> > can fix it. Many things though may be subjective and leading to
> > endless discussions without substance.
>
> > Br's,
> > Marius
>
> > On Dec 26, 2:51 am, Erkki Lindpere <vill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I think the best things I think you could do to help newbies is
> > > document in a well-structured way:
>
> > > * all the conventions over configuration rules
> > > * what classes to use for the basic stuff (what is S for and how it
> > > should be used, all the things you can do with LiftRules, etc.)
> > > * more advanced uses of bind(...) in snippets
> > > * better docs for the Lift tags.
>
> > > On Dec 25, 9:09 pm, Timothy Perrett <timo...@getintheloop.eu> wrote:
>
> > > > It would be really good for us as a team to know what it is you *dont*
> > > > get? Is it conceptual? code? If we can understand what is daunting for
> > > > newbies that would really be helpful.

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