The RLF will be providing illustrations of their proposed development of
the mall before town meeting. That is where we will be zoning 25 units per
acre of mixed use.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 5:59 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait <[email protected]> wrote:

> The highest density provided in that presentation is 18.5 units per acre.
> Do you have an example of what 25 units per acre mixed use zoning, as
> proposed for Lincoln center, would look like?
>
> Thanks
> Sarah Postlethwait
> Lewis Street
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 3:38 PM Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> We are protected largely by the nature of our land and previous land use
>> measures. The conservation land and wetlands can not be built on. As a
>> practical matter there is no place around the train station where anything
>> even vaguely resembling that image could be built. Issaquah Highlands is
>> 2,200 acres and 4,000 homes, and that image appears to be a schematic
>> showing the types of housing they have.
>>
>> Once again I urge you to look at the images of our existing developments
>> shown in the HCA Working group presentation (
>> https://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/85116). That illustrates
>> what 17 and 18 units per acre look like* in Lincoln.*  A giant 2000+
>> acre development is not going to look like Lincoln - and can't be built
>> here.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 11:16 AM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> So how  are we protected from this happening ?
>>> I might have missed something.
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------
>>> Sara Mattes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:38 AM, Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you subtract the wetlands from the Lincoln Woods density, as we are
>>> required to do for the HCA calculations, the density is 17.9 units per
>>> acre. It’s that 17.9 that you experience as you walk around Lincoln Woods.
>>>
>>> As those of you who attended the STOTT presentations may remember, of
>>> the 500 acres around the train station 340 (all but 160) are excluded from
>>> HCA calculations because they are wetlands, institutions, water bodies, or
>>> conservation land. To get a sense of what 15 units per acre looks like in
>>> Lincoln please look at the examples in the STOTT presentation and look at
>>> the density that accounts for the HCA exclusions.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:32 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lincoln woods is 6.3 units per acre
>>>> Proposed Lincoln center zoning is 25 units per acre
>>>>
>>>> <image_123650291.JPG>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 7:47 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had the good fortune of attending the tour of Lincoln Woods put on
>>>>> by FOMA yesterday after taking part in the State of the Town Meeting on
>>>>> Saturday.  See:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.fomalincoln.org/outreach
>>>>>
>>>>> This densely built, multi-family development is anything but "gross."
>>>>> In fact, I think it is quite the opposite and in many ways, represents the
>>>>> best of Lincoln in terms of its ideals, collaborative problem solving, and
>>>>> honoring the town's history of supporting modern, human scale dwellings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should continue to trust the many volunteers who've put so
>>>>> much time in coming up with a terrific solution to both comply with the
>>>>> Housing Choice Act and to honor our history and values rather than to
>>>>> fearmonger with words and images that don't represent the good work and
>>>>> intentions of many residents.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 7:14 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK-can someone do that for the proposed area in S.Lincoln?
>>>>>> The example offered by Robert Albert was alarming, and certainly NOT
>>>>>> something I would like to see.
>>>>>> Had I had such a visual at SoTT, I would voted for “None of the
>>>>>> Above”, but would have indicated I would support a map that shrank the 
>>>>>> size
>>>>>> of the S.Lincoln district to focus on the Mall,  and maybe Lewis Street,
>>>>>> and then include the Lincoln North + Battle Road Farm to make up the
>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps such modeling as seen in the post could better educate the
>>>>>> likes of me as to what S.Lincoln might look like under each scenario?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know the assertion is that this will take decades to build out, and
>>>>>> that is my concern.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to leave Lincoln the wonderful, small town I fell in love with
>>>>>> over 45 years ago.
>>>>>> Yes, there have been and will be changes, but the density and
>>>>>> intensity suggested is not what I would like to visit on  future
>>>>>> generations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> Sara Mattes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:49 AM, Don Seltzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is an excellent online tool called Residensity which provides
>>>>>> an interactive map for viewing actual residential density for towns,
>>>>>> neighborhoods, and individual parcels.
>>>>>> https://residensity.mhp.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don Seltzer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:27 AM Robert Ahlert <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As we start to think about what this build out is going to look
>>>>>>> like, it is useful to look at a couple articles that help visualize it.
>>>>>>> Also, I learned that density can be spread across a district or
>>>>>>> sub-district, only the average needs to be 15 units.  But with the 36' 
>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>> maximum in town, it will be interesting to see what the designs are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://mrsc.org/stay-informed/mrsc-insight/april-2017/visualizing-compatible-density
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scroll down in the above and you will get to some ideas about 15
>>>>>>> units per acre.  Given some plots have wetlands, some will have to be
>>>>>>> higher and others lower to make it average out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This assumes each property owner in the district/sub districts
>>>>>>> sells-out at the same time.  If they don't, i guess each developer will
>>>>>>> come up with their own design?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>
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