Any developer would be responsible for providing septic. The water board
has told the working group (I believe with a letter) that we have adequate
water.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:27 PM Susanna Szeto <[email protected]> wrote:

> Developer’s main purpose is to make money in developing the land.  Has
> anyone considered if the present infrastructure of the town would support
> such a relatively high density development?
>
> On Oct 3, 2023, at 5:06 PM, Robert Ahlert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Margaret - according to this article, we are required to follow a gross
> density calculation. That’s why I’m afraid that image might be accurate.
> Can someone explain?
>
>
> https://commonwealthmagazine.org/opinion/solving-the-mbta-communities-zoning-puzzle/
>
> Also, does anyone know the answer as to whether each property owner can
> sell out separately to separate developers? I don’t think there are any
> requirements regarding who they sell to and when. Might need a couple extra
> headcount in the planning department to deal with the proposals.
>
> Rob A
> 185 Lincoln Rd, Lincoln, MA 01773
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 3:39 PM Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> We are protected largely by the nature of our land and previous land use
>> measures. The conservation land and wetlands can not be built on. As a
>> practical matter there is no place around the train station where anything
>> even vaguely resembling that image could be built. Issaquah Highlands is
>> 2,200 acres and 4,000 homes, and that image appears to be a schematic
>> showing the types of housing they have.
>>
>> Once again I urge you to look at the images of our existing developments
>> shown in the HCA Working group presentation (
>> https://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/85116). That illustrates
>> what 17 and 18 units per acre look like* in Lincoln.*  A giant 2000+
>> acre development is not going to look like Lincoln - and can't be built
>> here.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 11:16 AM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> So how  are we protected from this happening ?
>>> I might have missed something.
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------
>>> Sara Mattes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:38 AM, Margaret Olson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you subtract the wetlands from the Lincoln Woods density, as we are
>>> required to do for the HCA calculations, the density is 17.9 units per
>>> acre. It’s that 17.9 that you experience as you walk around Lincoln Woods.
>>>
>>> As those of you who attended the STOTT presentations may remember, of
>>> the 500 acres around the train station 340 (all but 160) are excluded from
>>> HCA calculations because they are wetlands, institutions, water bodies, or
>>> conservation land. To get a sense of what 15 units per acre looks like in
>>> Lincoln please look at the examples in the STOTT presentation and look at
>>> the density that accounts for the HCA exclusions.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:32 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lincoln woods is 6.3 units per acre
>>>> Proposed Lincoln center zoning is 25 units per acre
>>>>
>>>> <image_123650291.JPG>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 7:47 PM John Mendelson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had the good fortune of attending the tour of Lincoln Woods put on
>>>>> by FOMA yesterday after taking part in the State of the Town Meeting on
>>>>> Saturday.  See:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.fomalincoln.org/outreach
>>>>>
>>>>> This densely built, multi-family development is anything but "gross."
>>>>> In fact, I think it is quite the opposite and in many ways, represents the
>>>>> best of Lincoln in terms of its ideals, collaborative problem solving, and
>>>>> honoring the town's history of supporting modern, human scale dwellings.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should continue to trust the many volunteers who've put so
>>>>> much time in coming up with a terrific solution to both comply with the
>>>>> Housing Choice Act and to honor our history and values rather than to
>>>>> fearmonger with words and images that don't represent the good work and
>>>>> intentions of many residents.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 7:14 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK-can someone do that for the proposed area in S.Lincoln?
>>>>>> The example offered by Robert Albert was alarming, and certainly NOT
>>>>>> something I would like to see.
>>>>>> Had I had such a visual at SoTT, I would voted for “None of the
>>>>>> Above”, but would have indicated I would support a map that shrank the 
>>>>>> size
>>>>>> of the S.Lincoln district to focus on the Mall,  and maybe Lewis Street,
>>>>>> and then include the Lincoln North + Battle Road Farm to make up the
>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps such modeling as seen in the post could better educate the
>>>>>> likes of me as to what S.Lincoln might look like under each scenario?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know the assertion is that this will take decades to build out, and
>>>>>> that is my concern.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to leave Lincoln the wonderful, small town I fell in love with
>>>>>> over 45 years ago.
>>>>>> Yes, there have been and will be changes, but the density and
>>>>>> intensity suggested is not what I would like to visit on  future
>>>>>> generations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> Sara Mattes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:49 AM, Don Seltzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is an excellent online tool called Residensity which provides
>>>>>> an interactive map for viewing actual residential density for towns,
>>>>>> neighborhoods, and individual parcels.
>>>>>> https://residensity.mhp.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don Seltzer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:27 AM Robert Ahlert <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As we start to think about what this build out is going to look
>>>>>>> like, it is useful to look at a couple articles that help visualize it.
>>>>>>> Also, I learned that density can be spread across a district or
>>>>>>> sub-district, only the average needs to be 15 units.  But with the 36' 
>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>> maximum in town, it will be interesting to see what the designs are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://mrsc.org/stay-informed/mrsc-insight/april-2017/visualizing-compatible-density
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scroll down in the above and you will get to some ideas about 15
>>>>>>> units per acre.  Given some plots have wetlands, some will have to be
>>>>>>> higher and others lower to make it average out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This assumes each property owner in the district/sub districts
>>>>>>> sells-out at the same time.  If they don't, i guess each developer will
>>>>>>> come up with their own design?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>
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