Seth -
 I can agree to all of that you said and still ask: What about the genocide
that is being conducted right now, by Israel, with resources provided by
the United States?
- Paul Shorb

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:38 PM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote:

> I find it very frustrating when folks make these suggestions.  It sounds
> so easy - just negotiate!  As if no one in Israel has ever thought of that,
> or tried it.  Here’s the thing I’m not sure you’re picking up… Israel’s
> enemies don’t want to negotiate. That is not the stated goal.  They are not
> “seeking a compromise”
>
> They want Israel gone, and they want the Jews in it gone.  The reason I
> can state this so unequivocally is because they have stated it
> unequivocally.
>
> I would be very interested to understand how you propose to negotiate
> given that starting position.  I negotiate all day long for a living and I
> don’t have any good ideas.
>
> October 7th did not happen because of Israel’s negligence.  It happened
> because a terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction sent an army of
> evil into Israel to rape women, kill babies, shoot innocent civilians, and
> kidnap the ones they didn’t kill.  Israeli intelligence was absolutely
> negligent in not being more vigilant, but that’s not the reason.
>
> If you want peace, it’s easy.  If they put down their weapons, there will
> be a Palestinian state.  If the Israelis put down their weapons there will
> be another holocaust.
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> On May 23, 2025, at 1:22 PM, Bijoy Misra <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> Not sit back idle, but negotiate.
> Killing a hundred people through overhead bombing does not show any
> humanity!
> As I have come to know Oct 7 happened through Israel's negligence.
> You don't take revenge by starving innocent children.
> It is overwhelming to see these difficult pictures and then bomb overhead.
> We are several hundred years behind now!
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:08 PM Rick Sale <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Agreed and well put!
>>
>> Now if we can get the people, like those who initiated October 7 and
>> those who initiated 911 and those who call for the destruction of Israel
>> and wiping them off the face of the map every day, to STOP that and their
>> horrifically destructive ideology, maybe we would get somewhere? What do
>> you think?
>>
>> Or should Israel just sit idly by and let Hamas, Iran, and all their
>> neighbors just wipe them off the face of the map? Perhaps they’re just
>> joking around?
>>
>> Unless and until that rhetoric and attempts at annihilation an entire
>> people dissipates…..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 12:55 PM Bijoy Misra <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have a stake in this.  But seeing a hundred people  being killed
>>> every day by overhead
>>> bombing does bother me.  I would appreciate it if the activists have a
>>> voice against it.  These
>>> hundreds of bombed people and starving children are as innocent as the
>>> couple in DC.
>>> Let all human beings be treated equally.
>>> Bijoy Misra
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:28 AM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Jonathan Sheffi has already offered a thoughtful and fact-based
>>>> admonishment of the GRALTA content.  He offered exhaustive commentary on
>>>> the specific claims made in the content and on the website, with specific
>>>> references.  He is not simply claiming it’s antisemitic content, he is
>>>> explaining precisely why it is antisemitic. He has proposed a counter
>>>> narrative supported by the evidence. It happens to also be a powerful one,
>>>> because it’s true.
>>>>
>>>> If you take issue with his assertions about the nature and character of
>>>> the content, why not actually respond to the facts?  Instead of the ad
>>>> hominem attacks.  Which facts have been misrepresented?
>>>>
>>>> With two Jews gunned down in the streets by a guy shouting “free
>>>> Palestine” one of your Jewish neighbors is still writing to a public email
>>>> list with thousands of members to stand with integrity against the
>>>> proliferation of antisemitic propaganda.  And I stand with him.
>>>>
>>>> Seth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 23, 2025, at 9:50 AM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Freedom of speech allows for inaccurate statements, misrepresentations
>>>> of facts and replacing facts with opinions and then others echoing them as
>>>> facts.
>>>> Unfortunately, this is happening here, again.
>>>>
>>>> GRALATA Foundation has been clear and consistent about its mission,
>>>> readily available on its website, in its programs and literature.
>>>>
>>>> For straightforward reporting of facts, you might consider a
>>>> subscription to *Haaretz*, a great Israeli newspaper.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 22, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Rick Sale <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Spot on and thank you for stating this Seth.
>>>>
>>>> ……
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 3:26 PM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Joan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Sheffi has already pointed out, in great detail and rather
>>>>> articulately, exactly why the propaganda films being screened in Lincoln 
>>>>> by
>>>>> Gralta are anti-Semitic.
>>>>>
>>>>> He has also made the point on numerous occasions that perpetuating
>>>>> these false narratives really does have real world consequences.  It is 
>>>>> not
>>>>> innocuous as some have suggested.  And two Israeli kids murdered by a 
>>>>> “free
>>>>> Palestine activist” are an unfortunate affirmation of his point.
>>>>>
>>>>> While you and your cohort are free to attend the screenings, he too
>>>>> should be free to criticize them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seth
>>>>>
>>>>> > On May 22, 2025, at 12:18 PM, Joan Kimball <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It is both untrue and offensive to link this effort to antisemitism.
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