Paul, would you please define the word genocide? It is often thrown around
carelessly these days.
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On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:48 PM Paul Shorb <[email protected]> wrote:

> Seth -
>  I can agree to all of that you said and still ask: What about the
> genocide that is being conducted right now, by Israel, with resources
> provided by the United States?
> - Paul Shorb
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:38 PM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I find it very frustrating when folks make these suggestions.  It sounds
>> so easy - just negotiate!  As if no one in Israel has ever thought of that,
>> or tried it.  Here’s the thing I’m not sure you’re picking up… Israel’s
>> enemies don’t want to negotiate. That is not the stated goal.  They are not
>> “seeking a compromise”
>>
>> They want Israel gone, and they want the Jews in it gone.  The reason I
>> can state this so unequivocally is because they have stated it
>> unequivocally.
>>
>> I would be very interested to understand how you propose to negotiate
>> given that starting position.  I negotiate all day long for a living and I
>> don’t have any good ideas.
>>
>> October 7th did not happen because of Israel’s negligence.  It happened
>> because a terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction sent an army of
>> evil into Israel to rape women, kill babies, shoot innocent civilians, and
>> kidnap the ones they didn’t kill.  Israeli intelligence was absolutely
>> negligent in not being more vigilant, but that’s not the reason.
>>
>> If you want peace, it’s easy.  If they put down their weapons, there will
>> be a Palestinian state.  If the Israelis put down their weapons there will
>> be another holocaust.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 23, 2025, at 1:22 PM, Bijoy Misra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Not sit back idle, but negotiate.
>> Killing a hundred people through overhead bombing does not show any
>> humanity!
>> As I have come to know Oct 7 happened through Israel's negligence.
>> You don't take revenge by starving innocent children.
>> It is overwhelming to see these difficult pictures and then bomb overhead.
>> We are several hundred years behind now!
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:08 PM Rick Sale <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed and well put!
>>>
>>> Now if we can get the people, like those who initiated October 7 and
>>> those who initiated 911 and those who call for the destruction of Israel
>>> and wiping them off the face of the map every day, to STOP that and their
>>> horrifically destructive ideology, maybe we would get somewhere? What do
>>> you think?
>>>
>>> Or should Israel just sit idly by and let Hamas, Iran, and all their
>>> neighbors just wipe them off the face of the map? Perhaps they’re just
>>> joking around?
>>>
>>> Unless and until that rhetoric and attempts at annihilation an entire
>>> people dissipates…..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 12:55 PM Bijoy Misra <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't have a stake in this.  But seeing a hundred people  being
>>>> killed every day by overhead
>>>> bombing does bother me.  I would appreciate it if the activists have a
>>>> voice against it.  These
>>>> hundreds of bombed people and starving children are as innocent as the
>>>> couple in DC.
>>>> Let all human beings be treated equally.
>>>> Bijoy Misra
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:28 AM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jonathan Sheffi has already offered a thoughtful and fact-based
>>>>> admonishment of the GRALTA content.  He offered exhaustive commentary on
>>>>> the specific claims made in the content and on the website, with specific
>>>>> references.  He is not simply claiming it’s antisemitic content, he is
>>>>> explaining precisely why it is antisemitic. He has proposed a counter
>>>>> narrative supported by the evidence. It happens to also be a powerful one,
>>>>> because it’s true.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you take issue with his assertions about the nature and character
>>>>> of the content, why not actually respond to the facts?  Instead of the ad
>>>>> hominem attacks.  Which facts have been misrepresented?
>>>>>
>>>>> With two Jews gunned down in the streets by a guy shouting “free
>>>>> Palestine” one of your Jewish neighbors is still writing to a public email
>>>>> list with thousands of members to stand with integrity against the
>>>>> proliferation of antisemitic propaganda.  And I stand with him.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 23, 2025, at 9:50 AM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Freedom of speech allows for inaccurate statements,
>>>>> misrepresentations of facts and replacing facts with opinions and then
>>>>> others echoing them as facts.
>>>>> Unfortunately, this is happening here, again.
>>>>>
>>>>> GRALATA Foundation has been clear and consistent about its mission,
>>>>> readily available on its website, in its programs and literature.
>>>>>
>>>>> For straightforward reporting of facts, you might consider a
>>>>> subscription to *Haaretz*, a great Israeli newspaper.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 22, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Rick Sale <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Spot on and thank you for stating this Seth.
>>>>>
>>>>> ……
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 3:26 PM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan Sheffi has already pointed out, in great detail and rather
>>>>>> articulately, exactly why the propaganda films being screened in Lincoln 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> Gralta are anti-Semitic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He has also made the point on numerous occasions that perpetuating
>>>>>> these false narratives really does have real world consequences.  It is 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> innocuous as some have suggested.  And two Israeli kids murdered by a 
>>>>>> “free
>>>>>> Palestine activist” are an unfortunate affirmation of his point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While you and your cohort are free to attend the screenings, he too
>>>>>> should be free to criticize them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On May 22, 2025, at 12:18 PM, Joan Kimball <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It is both untrue and offensive to link this effort to antisemitism.
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