(Tab and everyone, forgive me for posting this to the list; I was actually 
sending this directly until I saw the last post went to the list.) -- and 
this will be the last thing I'll say - I've got better things to do. But 
as I wrote this out I think I somewhat made a point with the target 
machines.....


First off, I'm not Howdy -- something I could never live up to -- but 
you're showing one more mistaken assumption.

Second Mr. Bill has always made it habit of plundering the work of others. 
He's a fantastic salesman that way. But past that not much more. Windows 
came from Jobs coming to Gates and asking him to design apps for his new 
Mac project from that Apple 2 projects. Gates not only fell in love with 
the mac but the system, tried to copy it and came up with Windows. Of 
course WinXP is another mock-off of OSX, but I'm talking Windows birth was 
illegitimate, just like Apple's was of Xerox Parc. No big deal....but 
realize that before Windows became Windows, it was DOS. WINDOWS. Meaning 
the macintosh interface.

As to mac vs windows, the difference is of one made up of components that 
are user definable but yet the OS has to support - a pc can be of any 
chips, any sound cards, vid cards, roms, etc. The other are components 
that the company creating the operating system is putting together itself. 
Now which do you think would make sense? Being the lingo programmer you 
are, how bloated would your OS be if you had to make sure that ANYTHING 
could be supported?

I've used a number of cross-platform xtras -- Scott Kildalls' Audio Xtra 
worked flawlessly for a project on a mac in 3 days work. I then spent the 
following 2 months trying to figure out what machines and what sound cards 
wouldn't work (damn those Crystal Sound cards) -- then I had to do hacks 
with allowing a certain buffer amount to go past no matter what was being 
recorded. Still some pcs wouldn't work.  I've had work with a video card 
not working with an xtra whereas on another machine with the same video 
card it worked perfectly -- and we couldn't find any difference between 
the two machines.

Besides what it comes down to is the damn things are just tools. Yeah I 
could build a house with some cheaper tools, get a planer, a saw, 
etc....or I can spend a little more and get a really good table saw. Colin 
made a good point about the difference, but I wanted to add one more 
thing...

As to mac users not knowing anything -- well I love taking apart all my 
macs - hell I've got about 20 powermacs in the toolroom waiting to be 
poked and prodded; I've moved mac motherboards into 9bay atx cases so I 
could have more drives - scsi and ide.

Hmmm....wow, as soon as I'm writing this directly to you since your email 
stated you were writing to me directly, I get another one being sent to 
the list...so I guess this isn't being sent directly to me.  I can't see 
how my last message had an arrogant attitude....more so than yours.

By the way; isn't so great how Microsoft is preaching against Unix, 
spending 25 million in the marketting campaign only to not notice that the 
servers they're running it on are on Unix? Brilliant, right?


On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, js33 wrote:

> Hi Howdy,
> 
> Well you sounded like an ass yourself that
> is why I replied to you.
> I'll get off it if you do. There is no need to cluter
> up the fine Lingo list with your arrogant attitude.
> Well Win2k looks nothing like XP which is what
> you're referring to. Also you're right the Mac
> totally ripped of Xerox Parc and now they're
> ripping off Unix.  Think different. Hehehee.
> 
> Cheers,
> JS
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Oh please - let's get off this now. Besides you still sound like an ass.
> >
> > You like Windows 2K? Fantastic. Still a rip off of the mac os, which is a
> > rip off of a xerox idea.
> 


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