Re: LDM's and TELL is NOT obsolete whatever MM says

[Evil Kosh]

Hi Rob,
I like it!!! it looks a lot cleaner than nested tell statements so I 
think I'll use that from now on, it's annoying that director can't 
figure out the right scope to be in, perhaps they should work a little 
bit harder at MM to earn that paycheck they think they deserve.

Rob Romanek wrote:
The problem you raise is not an issue of tell being obsolete or not 
but strickly the problem of mouseEnter/Within/Leave targeting out of 
scope. Basically I find I do not use tell any more in DMX04 the new 
DOM renders it not essential. That does not mean that it won't work 
anymore (there are other lingo commands which are considered obsolete 
and still work) But for what you are doing I would restructure your 
code as follows

--original code
Property arrow, icon
on mouseEnter me
  tell the stage
    tell channel("Navigation").sprite
      icon = sprite(me.spriteNum)
      arrow = channel("Highlight").sprite
    end tell
  end tell
end
--new structure
Property arrow, icon
on mouseEnter me
  
_player.activeWindow.movie.channel("navigation").sprite.movie.call(#mEnter, 
me)
end

on mEnter me
  icon = sprite(me.spriteNum)
  arrow = channel("Highlight").sprite
end
Now that may seem more convoluted to some but personally I like the 
way it targets the proper scope and then allows me to write my code in 
a standard way without the nested tell statements.

Both ways work. And yes I wish they had fixed the enter/within/leave 
problem too.

hth,
Rob
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:11:38 +0100, Evil Kosh 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi guys,
okay, I'd just like to quash this right here and right now, "tell" is
NOT obsolete
MM says in the Director manual that tell is apparently now obsolete and
you dont need to use it anymore, except when of course you have to use
it and perhaps MM should come forward and explain why I had to use tell
in order to get my project to work, tell obsolete? nah, I dont think so.
I got a director movie, which I use as a LDM within my main movie,
within the LDM movie I've got a mouseEnter, Within and Leave events, I
put some code in there, like below (I'll top post this code, so you can
read this, THEN read the code):
as you can see in my code, I've commented out all the tell commands,
WITHOUT them, none of this code works, what happens, is that
me.spriteNum is 2, which is NOT a sprite on the (main movies, but is
within the LDM)stage, so it doesnt do ANYTHING, on the other icon I
dropped this behaviour onto, it's spriteNum is 3, which happens to
coincide with a bitmap of 810x610, but when I highlight the icon within
the LDM, it highlights sprite(3) from the main movie!!!!! not the LDM.
so I get a highlight (which is what the script does) over the sprite(3)
within the main movie, as opposed to sprite(3) within the LDM,
marvellous!  The Hack is to get the LDM to tell the stage, to tell the
LDM what to do, what a hack.....
Version 10+ of director and they havent got something like this working
yet, people have only been requesting (and subsequently ignored for the
most part) for the last 5+ years......
So remember people, whatever MM says, TELL IS NOT OBSOLETE!!!
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