On 2015-09-07 13:27 Karl Auer wrote:

> You felt light-headed - there are many possible causes of light-headedness, 
> and even allowing that it happened only when you used the phone, allowing 
> that this was not coincidence, and allowing that it happened every time you 
> used the phone etc etc, there are dozens of factors apart from EMR that may 
> be causes or contributing causes. This is not intended to discount your 
> experience - just to say that there is science and there is non-science, and 
> unless you do a proper study, preferably of people who do not know they are 
> being studied, it really doesn't count.

Yes, I'm very well acquainted with the philosophy & methodology of science.  
I'm not campaigning either way, my own experience just provided a suggestive 
correlation.

If any Linkers are interested in psychogenic (psycho-somatic) conditions, I can 
recommend a recent book by an English Consultant Neurologist by the name of 
Suzanne O'Sullivan published by Chatto & Windus titled "It's All in Your Head". 
 One of the biggest problems in treatment is pursuading patients who are 
certainly experiencing very real symptoms that their condition is psychogenic 
and they should see a Psychiatrist.


>> apparently the earpiece cable picks up radiation which the earpiece directs 
>> into the skull
> 
> What radiation does it pick up? And does it "apparently" do so, or does it 
> actually do so? Has anyone set up the required experiment to find out? If so, 
> great - we have real data. BTW science already has huge amounts of detailed 
> scientific information on how radiation of all sorts is propagated through 
> human heads; it's used all the time in various kinds of medical scans.

It's claimed to pick up the radiation from the phone's own antenna.  I don't 
have time to research this properly now, but it seems at least some earpieces 
are equipped with filters.  An article at 
http://telecom.hellodirect.com/docs/Tutorials/HeadsetBenefits.1.110200.asp from 
a pro-telecom organisation claims RF pickup is reduced by 65-70% dependent on 
how the earpiece cable is located relative to the antenna (which seems 
reasonable).  A contrary view (quoting a U.S. NIH source) is at 
http://www.emfnews.org/Wireless-Radiation-Dangers.html  Authoritative sources 
are hard to find.


> Such studies are useful first steps; to see if a proper study might be 
> warranted. But before putting the blame for such things on the antennas, it 
> would be necessary to extend the study to other similar suburbs, and to 
> eliminate other possible causes. Correlation is not causation - if it were, 
> nylon stockings would be banned as a leading cause of lung cancer in women.

This desktop study found a doubling of childhood leukemia _relative to_ the 
incidence in the general population.  Obviously that's not the last word but 
phase-2 of the study, which might have clarified matters, was cancelled.

This study was carried out by an Epidemiologist working at a well-known and 
respected Australian University when I spoke to him, not someone from the 
Institute of Astral Vibrations.

David L.
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