Mike ...

you said:
> I looked at VMWare and liked it, I liked it a lot - but it doesn't "really"
> present a virtual machine with virtual hardware like mainframe VM does, at
> least not 100%.   ...

I've got to take issue with this,  the terminology.
>From the definition of virtualization that I know,  what VMware does
*is* the real thing.   That is,  it lets the guest operating system
run on the underlying hardware until there is an exception.

Lack of (or limitted) PCMCIA support is a great point,
but it is a fault which z/VM shares,  if you consider such things as
the sysplex timer or FCP (on releases of z/VM prior to the last two).

So the point is that  "virtual machines"  are virtual
in the same sense as  "virtual memory"  is virtual:  it is real
(possibly with translation)  until there is a fault.   This gives a
clear and useful delineation between hypervisors and emulators.

By this definition,  what Java uses is not a virtual machine.
That's bad.   Can't do much about that.   Quite frustrating.
Nothing wrong with that the Java guys are doing per se,
just hard to convey the value of a hypervisor with overloaded terms.

> If they ever support dedicating NICs and PCMCIA devices to "virtual
> machines" I'll definitely give it another look.   ...

I share the sentiment,  the need for this feature.
(That is one of the reasons for starting the thread,
which has strayed somewhat!)   A generic hypervisor  "attach"  command
would be a great tool to have,  something that would work the same on
VMware as it does already on z/VM.

-- R;

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