Hi Lee,

Thanks for the info - I have no idea what ESX provides that the WorkStation
version does not - all I do know is WorkStation (which is all I need, I was
going to use this on a notebook) is $299, GSX is $3,025(!) and ESX doesn't
even have a published price on the vmware.com website.

This discussion reminded me I haven't looked at their product for a while,
and I see they just releasd a new WorkStation release so I figured maybe
they added the missing support (that evidently already exists in ESX).  I
read through the pages and pages of stuff on their website but could not
determine if they supported PCMCIA, NIC and MODEM devices which can be
dedicated to a guest virtual machine.  I sent their sales department a
simple note which said "Does the latest release of VMWare WorkStation
support PCMCIA devices, and can PCMCIA devices, modems and/or NIC's be
dedicated to guest virtual machines?".  They replied saying "We are not
Technical Support - but if you click on the links below you'll find
everything you need to know" and they proceeded to steer me back to the very
same web pages I had already read that did not answer my questions.  So I
replied that I had already been there, could not find the answers to my
questions, and cannot consider purchasing their product unless I know
whether or not this support exists.  Their response was (basically) "we only
list on our website what we DO support" and she proceeded to steer me to yet
more web pages that didn't answer my relatively simple sales question(!).

You would THINK that their sales associates would be familiar with the
product they are selling.  Even if they aren't THAT familiar with it, you
would THINK that this individual could have turned to their Technical
Support (or other) folks and asked that simple question - but instead she
kept giving me "non-answers" and directing me to web pages that provided yet
more "non-answers", geez!

So, VMWare goes back into the "nice toy, see if they've matured in a year"
folder.   

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-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: z/VM and VMware


At 09:55 AM 9/30/2003, you wrote:
>Very true - but in my case I needed to dedicate individual NICs to 
>virtual machines, and also had a PCMCIA device that the virtual 
>machines needed dedicated access to.  Seem like a "virtual machine" 
>hypervisor needs to address real hardware access - just like mainframe 
>VM does.  Providing "access to a network" is not the same as attaching 
>a dedicated NIC.

VMware/ESX *does* provide the ability to have several NICs.  And you can
pick and choose how you use them.  Share them, dedicate them, or team them
(several NICs acting as one).

Lee

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Lee A. Stewart
Senior Systems Engineer
Sytek Services, a division of DSG
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