Since /proc is a pseudo-file system in the Linux system itself, I don't see
how it would be possible to collect information from it without "running in
Linux at all."  If you want to get process-level information, you need to
have something running on the Linux instance to gather the information.
Then, as you noted, you need something external to that to correct for the
VM perspective on what resources were actually being consumed.  You can't do
it all from VM.


Mark Post

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Barton Robinson said:

I've posted this in the past, the problem is not RMFPM, it
is all linux under vm monitors.... Top is just as bad.

My standard explanation is posted at "http://linuxvm.com/topisbad.html";

Thanks for the URL. I understand about Linux assuming that it has the CPU
all to itself.  Your webpage suggests NET-SNMP. As I understand it, SNMP is
a low-cost way of collecting the data that it has collected.  Its
performance numbers are no more valid that any other collection tool (except
a tool like Velocity's which integrates Linux and VM data.) The SNMP daemon
that comes with the system will also work, it is just that NET-SNMP is more
complete. Yes?

It seems to me that the best collection tool would not run in Linux at all.
It would follow control-block chains in storage and get the data from /proc.
Is this possible?

Thanks,

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