Where does one get a copy of S/390 Debian Sarge?

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On Jan 9, 2005, at 7:56 PM, Post, Mark K wrote:

> Let me preface my statements by saying that I am the architecture
> maintainer/developer for the S/390 port of Slackware.  Debian, is a
> _very_
> good Linux distribution.  It has a tremendous community of
> maintainers/developers.  If ISV certifications is not an issue for
> you, you
> won't be sorry for choosing it.  Also, just because the stable branch
> tends
> to "lag" somewhat, doesn't mean you have to stick with that.  Debian's
> "unstable" branch is fairly current, and equal to or better than most
> GA
> software from a lot of companies.
>
Current "unstable" should be released as "stable" Pretty Darn Soon now.
  No, no actual date yet.  But soon.  I would certainly recommend
working with Sarge RC2 right now (caveat: it might actually be broken,
since it's been a while since RC2; but if you try RC2 and it doesn't
build, let me know and I'll make a build of the latest daily release
for you).  Sarge (3.1) is quite stable and much more modern than Woody
(3.0).

Also--and this is a bit of an issue for me, anyway, because I've put a
fair bit of time into testing debian-installer on Sarge and trying to
help out with issues we've discovered on S/390--if your Linux box has
network access, *I* at least have never had to go through the
contortions that SLES 9 is requiring from some people on the list.  If
you installed Woody, well, Sarge is a lot nicer to install.  And if you
haven't, in my opinion, debian-installer makes Debian at least as easy
to install in a server/no-X environment as either SuSE or RedHat and
can be done with a much smaller footprint.  SuSE now needs 2 3390-3s to
install, I think; I can install Debian in 400 cylinders and run an
actual application too, *without* having to manually trim anything from
the default minimal install.  Debian-installer works fine in 64MB of
memory--and would work in less if anyone had had the time and energy to
work on a lowmem install for S/390--rather than the 256MB SuSE
requires.  Once installed it can run in a lot less than that.

If your S/390 cannot see the Internet but it is on an IP network inside
your company and can get to something with a CD or DVD drive, then not
long at all after the Sarge release, we should be able to sell you a
VM-friendly Debian installer system.  I might do an LPAR version as
well that used a local x86 (or whatever--just something with a few
gigabytes of disk free that can run a web server) as the installation
mirror, along with an IPL tape--if there is demand for it.

Adam

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