McKown, John wrote:
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Adam Thornton
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Wine on z/Linux

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I do not buy the "sold a bill of goods" part.


Well, trying to be nice, I left out the part that the people who told
our (now ex-) management were the IBM sales people who were trying to
get an IFL on a z800 sold to us.


Wine *does* allow Linux to run (some) Windows software (Exchange and
SQL Server?  No idea).

Linux on an IFL *is* "FREE!!!" (modulo support costs).  And it *can*
be a useful consolidation tool for some workloads.


Oh? I've never managed to find a s390x version of Linux that I can
download directly from the Internet, other than CentOS. Both SuSE and RH
wanted nnn dollars for a "test version" of Linux which we could only use
for something like 6 months. Whereupon they expected us to stop using
the software or get a service contract with them. I still cannot find

I imagine the charge is to cover (with profit) the vendor's costs. How
they legally prevent its continued use is a great mystery to me.


anywhere that I can purchase a DVD (or CD collection) which has an s390x
Linux distro on it, to run under Hercules/390. I cannot afford to
download CentOS at the house. My DSL is too slow and CentOS is too big.

You can't find someone at a local Linux-oriented IAP or your local LUG
that will do it for a few dollars?

Or download one image whenever you have some spare capacity towards the
end of a billing cycle? Or upgrade to a more suitable plan?

FWIW I installed FC2 (Intel) through a modem by configuring a local
Apache as a caching proxy and installing from that. It's true it took a
few 4-hour sessions, but restarting from the cache was quick.



The missing piece is that "Linux" in the first sentence means "Linux/
x86" and in the second "Linux/390."



Except that the information about Linux and Wine came from the same
people who were trying to get us to buy an IFL. Not exactly
"transparently honest", IMO.

Probably ignorant. My experience of IT salesmen suggests they're rarely
technically competant.




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John

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