On 10/8/07, Grzegorz Powiedziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Such cloning between two VM-machines or even LPARs in one mainframe
> would be very easy... but between two mainframes?
> (ah, on the second mainframe I don't have the tape drive).

I'm surprised about the challenge you have been given. The common way
to move operating system and applications from one mainframe to the
other is by having the DASD attached to both machines, at least for
some period of time. Most installations with multiple mainframes
connect their DASD subsystems to all physical machines to simplify
systems management. But there may be access restrictions to separate
production and test data, or whatever applies. You probably should
verify whether this really has not been done in your shop too (so that
you could have a few volumes for transfer of the data).

If it cannot be done that way (for example due to geographical
conditions or lack of channel adapters) my recommendation would be to
simply use the DVD to install a small starter system or bring up a
rescue system on the new machine. When you have that, you can use
Linux tools to transfer the data from one site to the other (e.g. tar
over ssh). If you transfer files rather than blocks, you also need to
run zipl after you copied the files.

There are several Open Source projects and commercial solutions that
deal with deployment on discrete servers (like SystemImager). Some of
these solutions can burn a DVD with the customized installation for
one specific target machine (or sometimes combined with a data on USB
or network to customize). From what I have seen, those solutions don't
work for Linux on System z. There probably has not been much demand
for that because they solve problems that we normally don't have on
the mainframe.

Rob
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Rob van der Heij
Velocity Software, Inc
http://velocitysoftware.com/

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