One other thing...

I said you can't exert any control over the network using this
technique.  In so much as there are files in /proc that can be written
to (to change certain kernel parameters) you will be able to write to
them just as easily over the network (unless you mount read-only or
change the file permissions.)  So technically it does allow you to do
a small amount of administration.

Erik

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Erik N Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> In this case NOC stands for Network Operations Center, and calling it
> that might be a BIT misleading, because you don't have a tremendous
> amount of control you could exert over the network from this single
> node.  This mechanism also doesn't allow for monitoring switches
> (although there is no reason why it shouldn't work with Linux
> routers.)
>
> What you do have is a central point that aggregates ALL the available
> info about EVERY z/Linux host in your config.
>
> This allows you to do some pretty neat profiling stuff, comparing
> loads on like-purposed hosts etc...  The limits to what you could do
> in terms of aggregating and publishing (and logging) of kernel
> information are limited only by the extents of the info available in
> /proc.  To the best of my knowledge virtually everything the kernel
> knows is available under the /proc directory.  If you run apache on
> the host you can very easily display a summary of the health and
> well-being of all your penguins, either on your intranet for
> management types to see how great your utilization is, or on the
> Internet for your hosting or web-service clients to look at your
> availability info.  All without SNMP.  This monitor node could also be
> a distinct machine like a 386 running debian, and it can monitor any
> other Linux machine on your network.  But of course, you'll get the
> best performance if the whole mess is on one mainframe installation,
> preferably under z/VM though distinct LPARS don't present any problem
> either.
>
> I did make one mistake in my earlier post, all your kernels need the
> 9p module, not just the one doing the aggregation.
>
> In fact this is exactly what /proc is FOR, or at any rate, this is the
> purpose of the system that these concepts were adopted from.  Plan 9
> even includes a debugger called acid which got all its info through
> the /proc interface, allowing you to remotely attach to and debug a
> running process.  Dtrace cannot do that, afaik.  There exists an acid
> port as part of the Plan 9 From Userspace project but it is not
> complete.  It does, however have very interesting capabilities already
> please see the man page online
> (http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man1/acid.html).  I have posted about
> Plan 9 From Userspace in the past, it also goes by the name plan9port
> and contains a variety of novel unix-style tools including a graphical
> editor in the spirit of ed (called sam) as well as unicode aware
> troff, grep (the plan 9 grep is more like egrep, fair warning) sed and
> many others, as well as some new tools designed to work with the 9p
> network filesystem.  If nothing else some of these tools provide much
> cleaner, lighter-weight equivalents to their GNU counterparts, and
> will build under pretty much any C compiler. (Read: DOES NOT REQUIRE
> automake, autoconf, gmake, or gcc.)
>
> To find out a bit more about these concepts in general you can read
> about it on Wikipedia under Plan 9 From Bell Labs
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_9_from_Bell_Labs).  For more info
> on plan9port see Russ Cox's Plan 9 From Userspace website
> (http://swtch.com/plan9port).  For specific info on how to use v9fs
> see their documentation page
> (http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/ericvh/v9fs.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/filesystems/9p.txt;hb=HEAD).
>
> The v9fs project was begun by Ron Minnich and Maya Gokhale of Los
> Alamos.  Their involvement in the project was funded under two
> distinct DARPA contracts.  The kernel module is distributed with the
> vanilla kernel from kernel.org, and is not flagged experimental.  I
> have looked for the date when it was added to the mainline kernel but
> have not found it.
>
> Erik Johnson
>
> P.S.  I agree that Dtrace syntax (and all other
> white-space-significant language) is fugly.  If people would refrain
> from using whitespace to delimit code then varying indentation style
> would be irrelevant, since the proper incantation to BSD's indent will
> render any C, C++, Java, Perl, or other sanely constructed language
> file into an indentation style that a particular programmer finds
> optimally readable.  If I run indent on a Python program it breaks.
> This seems to me a bit of a throw-back to me.
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Dave Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Eric, could you expand on your idea here a bit more? What's a Linux NOC?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Erik N Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> In an attempt to bring things back on topic for Scott, and everybody
>>> else who is supposed to keep e-mail work related (sorry guys!) I would
>>> like to point out a major feature of Linux that people seem to remain
>>> unaware of.  In Linux you can get virtually any piece of kernel
>>> information from the vfs through the novel /proc filesystem.  I have
>>> discussed this and other ports from the Plan 9 From Bell Labs
>>> operating system to Linux (especially the 9p kernel module.)  No other
>>> operating system has, to the best of my knowledge, any attempt at
>>> these features.  What's really great about this is that for a z/Linux
>>> farm you can easily use 9p to create a single virtual host whch has a
>>> /mnt all full of:
>>> /mnt
>>>    /host1/proc
>>>    /host2/proc
>>>    ...
>>>    /hostN/proc
>>>
>>> then a perl (or shell or python) script ( or ANY filesystem-aware
>>> program, which is pretty open-ended) can easily do:
>>>
>>> foreach host in hosts {
>>>    displayRelevantInfo( /mnt/host/proc);
>>> }
>>>
>>> where hosts is the full set of Linux guests.
>>>
>>> Voila, pure Linux NOC w/out nasty, insecure SNMP.  With HiperSocket
>>> this is going to be VERY fast.  It DOES require a custom kernel on the
>>> virtual host which is serving as the NOC, as 9p is a kernel module.
>>>
>>> This is the type of thing that a GPL-compatible license brings to your OS.
>>>
>>> Erik Johnson
>>>
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