On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 21:52:49 +0200 you said: >I guess Florian wanted to reply to the list. > >Regards, Berry. > >Florian Bilek schreef: >> Dear all, >> >> Even I couldn't agree more with the statements about sticking to the >> available software versions, this does not reflect reality. As >> software is mostly developed outside of the organisations they want to >> use it, nobody is taking care of certain maintenace levels. When it is >> available, when it is fits to the requirements then the management >> wants to have it. And when you as responsible for the zSeries tell >> them, well we can not do it because we have SLES 10 and SLES 11 >> requires a new mainframe, I guess you can imagine what the reaction of >> the management will be: Burry this bloddy thing an replace it >> immediately by more modern hardware.
So you'll get something more recent than a z800? This http://www-07.ibm.com/systems/my/z/about/timeline/ puts the z800 availability as starting in 2002, or 7 years ago. How many intel servers do you run with a 7 year old processor? Now I have lots of problems with vendors not understanding the difficulty in supporting Java compatibility, and how other vendors can dictate versions and cause all sorts of support headaches, but I think your argument loses standing when you are making a case for supporting old hardware, but using the threat of replacing it with more current hardware as justification. >> >> In my opinon the zSeries has to be as flexible as possible in order to >> have a chance to survive against the other platforms. It is not that >> you simply buy a new zSeries every year. No, but as often as you buy replacement Intel servers would make sense. >> >> So I think there is a real need to support JAVA 1.6 also on SLES 10 >> and I really don't see why this should not be possible. I'm not saying there isn't. (or that there is) Just that you need a better business case. /ahw >> >> Best regards, >> Florian >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Berry van Sleeuwen >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I wish we could manage the programmers :-). Some do program with a >> version in mind. Especially when new functions are incorporated into a >> new software product. Or when some product requires (or thinks it >> requires) a certain version. As much as we would like to we can't >> always >> control the programmers or software vendors. >> >> I do agree that a programmer should code for the available version but >> it's not always that simple. >> >> Berry. >> >> >> Mark Post schreef: >> > "The programmers may prefer..." That's a management issue, and >> should be addressed by them. >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> with the message: INFO LINUX-390 >> or visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards >> >> Florian Bilek > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit >http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
