Linux-Advocacy Digest #160, Volume #26           Sun, 16 Apr 00 17:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: We need a new subject was (Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't  ("Brian D. 
Smith")
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Eric Bennett)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Eric Bennett)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Michael Sims)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Eric Bennett)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Eric Bennett)
  Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary (John Hasler)
  Re: New Linux User Question (Charlie Ebert)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (Karel Jansens)
  Re: Athlon ("Eugene")
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (C Lund)
  Re: New Linux User Question ("Rich C")
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (abraxas)
  Re: New Linux User Question (Mig Mig)
  Re: New Linux User Question (Donovan Rebbechi)
  Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert! (C Lund)

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From: "Brian D. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: We need a new subject was (Re: You anti-Microsoft types just don't 
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:57:32 GMT

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I really was hoping to stay out of the fray, but I have to respond to
this...

"Keith T. Williams" wrote:
> And since this is an anti-Microsoft NG, and since the feelings which
are
> expressed in here are rarely "good" Christian feelings <S>, perhaps
we
> should stop the biblical discussions.  Have a good one.

First, I'll concede that there is a lot of anti-Microsoft sentiment
out there, most of which is independent of Linux.  Remember the Mac v.
Windows arguments of years past?  Microsoft's agressive marketing and
alleged strong-arm tactics with OEMs are what have generated a lot of
that.  But being a Linux advocate does not in itself make one
anti-Microsoft.  Despite the anti-Microsoft sentiment, I would not
make stereotypes about Linux advocates.

While I have advocated the advantages of Linux, I don't blindly
advocate it, and I would hope the Microsoft advocates wouldn't do so
blindly either.  These platforms are tools (along with UNIX, Novell
and others) to get IT work done.  When you choose your tools, you have
to weigh the pros and the cons, total cost of ownership, required
admin skills & training, IT recruiting and retention, and the
importance of the IT project to the business.  I don't see a one size
fits all answer;  More often than not, its a mixed environment. 
Possibly with NT as the file and print servers, Mainstream UNIX (i.e.,
Solaris) for the Database Servers, and Linux for internet applications
(web, ftp, email, etc).  Linux could in theory do it all for less, but
most professionals I know want to give it more time to prove itself. 
(Some think it already has...).

It seems to me that Linux's position in the market is the same place
NT was a few years ago, when Novell was the dominant network OS.  Now,
it's Linux's turn to challenge Microsoft, and we benefit from the
competition.

Brian Smith
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From: Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:09:03 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mayor 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >How do the different instances know which prefs file they're
> >supposed to use?  Or do you reset the prefs for each multiple
> >instance every time you load it?
> 
> Most CAD programs store the preferences used for a drawing
> within the drawing file. They have a set of minimal defaults for
> new drawings but they are seldom kept. Most CAD users have seed
> files with all of their preferred settings that they use as
> starting points.

So if you open file A with one set of preferences, and then open file B 
within the same instance of the CAD program, do the settings in file B 
overwrite the settings for file A?  Sounds like bad design if that 
happens.  If not, and A and B each retain their preferences, with the 
preferences of A in control while you work on A and the preferences of B 
in control while you work on B, what have you gained by using multiple 
instances?

-- 
Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ ) 
Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology

CBS News report on Fort Worth tornado damage:
"Eight major downtown buildings were severely damaged and 1,000 homes were
damaged, with 95 uninhabitable.  Gov. George W. Bush declared Tarrant County
a disaster area.  Federal Emergency Management Agency workers are expected
to arrive sometime next week after required paperwork is completed."

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From: Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:12:12 -0400

In article 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> > So long as you have multiple threads, why bother with multiple 
> > instances?  I don't buy your stability argument.  I don't think the 
> > minimal return is worth it.  When I'm on a Unix box, I could fire up 
> > six 
> > copies of Emacs, but I prefer instead to load my six text files into 
> > one 
> > instance of Emacs and switch between them with the Buffers menu.  I 
> > can't remember Emacs ever crashing on me. 
> 
> Of course it depends on the application. Almost always I have multiple
> instances of bash, xterm, etc. running.

But when was the last time xterm ever crashed on you?  There is no 
stability reason for running multiple copies of xterm, rather than 
having one xterm program that can spawn multiple terminal windows.

-- 
Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ ) 
Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology

CBS News report on Fort Worth tornado damage:
"Eight major downtown buildings were severely damaged and 1,000 homes were
damaged, with 95 uninhabitable.  Gov. George W. Bush declared Tarrant County
a disaster area.  Federal Emergency Management Agency workers are expected
to arrive sometime next week after required paperwork is completed."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Sims)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:14:46 GMT

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:40:27 GMT, "Shock Boy"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Because you are not opening them as a seperate process. Explorer can run
>either as a single process, or as multiple process.
>The default for all but Win2K is for them to be a single process, with
>multiple instances ( e.g. seperate tasks, but one
>process ). This is the default as this requires the least amount of
>resources.
>
>If you wish to have a seperate process for each Explorer window.. simply
>select under Folder Options, View, "Launch Folder Windows under seperate
>process". For Internet Explorer, its usually under Internet Options.

        Well, I'll be damned.  It is in there, under "Advanced"
("Browse in a new process").  Thanks for the pointer...
=====================================================================
Michael Sims
michaels at akamail dot com
"The beatings will continue until morale improves."    
=====================================================================

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From: Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:16:20 -0400

In article <wukK4.42391$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Mayer" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There are always examples of applications that should exist as a single
> instance, and certainly games like Quake is a good one. However reliable 
> or
> not, I prefer to minimize my loss when a single process crashes. Your
> arguing that it's not a significant advantage, and perhaps that's true 
> for
> many cases, however in some cases it certainly will be.

In those cases, the app is going to be crashing enough that I'm not 
going to want to use it regardless of whether I'm using one or more 
instances.

> How does the Mac handle printing one document while you edit another?

It spools the job to disk and lets the printer spooler chew on it in the 
background.

> You insist it's minimal return, but it's not. Regardless, it's free 
> because
> the OS supports it, so the cost is nothing. In this case, why wouldn't 
> you
> implement it. Also, conceptually speaking, it just seems cleaner to me: 
> One
> document + One application + Multiple threads.

Well, I think clearly it's a matter of preference for how people like to 
organize their workspace.  I prefer single instances for *most* things.  
You don't.

> > This introduces an extra layer of effort.  If I have a lot of windows
> > open, with a single instance, I go to the program's windows menu and
> > select my window.  With multiple instances, I have to select the
> > instance and then the window.  Or it introduces an extra submenu, or if
> > all windows system-wide are listed at once I have to scan through more
> > windows.  I prefer the organization that comes from single instances.
> 
> But if every instance only had a single document, then you only really 
> need
> to select the window. If your talking about a lot of documents, then this 
> is
> probably a case where multiple instances fails. With only a handful of
> documents, multiple instances are superior.

But, you probably want to pick one method and stick to it, rather than 
switching back and forth.  So a question for each individual user might 
be whether they have a lot of documents.  I prefer single instance.  You 
don't.

-- 
Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ ) 
Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology

CBS News report on Fort Worth tornado damage:
"Eight major downtown buildings were severely damaged and 1,000 homes were
damaged, with 95 uninhabitable.  Gov. George W. Bush declared Tarrant County
a disaster area.  Federal Emergency Management Agency workers are expected
to arrive sometime next week after required paperwork is completed."

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From: Eric Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:19:48 -0400

In article <DGoK4.2402$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Shock 
Boy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Tim Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:cPmK4.42707$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "James L. Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > in article wukK4.42391$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Mayer at
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 4/16/00 10:54 AM:
> > >
> > > > How does the Mac handle printing one document while you edit 
> > > > another?
> > >
> > > Just fine! The document to be printed is placed in a print queue and
> while
> > > this queue is being serviced you are free to do whatever else you 
> > > wish,
> > > including editing other documents or running other applications.
> > >
> >
> > Does it send the document to the queue in the background? (i.e. what if
> it's
> > a big document and takes a long time to be queued)
> 
> With most adobe products, you can do nothing while it is being rendered 
> and
> sent to the queue.. This is a direct result of their
> "superior" memory management, and lack of multiple instances and poor
> multi-threading.
> 
> Many Mac users do not realize that this is a decrease in productivity.. 
> and
> can not even *concieve* of the idea of being able to continue work 
> instead
> of just "waiting".


I should point out that multiple instances wouldn't help here on the 
Mac, because most Mac printer drivers won't let you switch to *anything* 
else, whether another app or another instance of the same app, while 
they are writing the spool file.

Still, I would rather have this fixed by a threaded program than by 
multiple instances.

-- 
Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ ) 
Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology

CBS News report on Fort Worth tornado damage:
"Eight major downtown buildings were severely damaged and 1,000 homes were
damaged, with 95 uninhabitable.  Gov. George W. Bush declared Tarrant County
a disaster area.  Federal Emergency Management Agency workers are expected
to arrive sometime next week after required paperwork is completed."

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Introduction to Linux article for commentary
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:02:44 GMT

Donovan writes:
> If it was true that people are as inherently evil and abusive of power as
> you seem to believe, then communism would do a very poor job at offering
> a solution to this problem, because communism assumes that people are
> essentially "good" and willing to work.

Traditional Marxist dogma divides humanity into the irredeemably evil
ruling class and the angelic working class, and claims that if the members
of the working class murder all the members of the ruling class they will
live happily ever after in a communal utopia.  The Kmer Rouge tried it.  It
didn't work.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Linux User Question
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:33:29 GMT

Tobias Adrianse wrote:

> I am interested in making the transition to Linux as my OS.  I currently run
> Win98.  If this is a bad newsgroup for this post please direct me to one
> that is better.
>

That's where I came from.  I ran 95, 98 and NT also.


>
> What are the basic advantages for running Linux.  ( I am looking into red
> hat)

TRUE multitasking.  With 98 you have jerkyness in your multitasking.  That
being
the applications seem to stop then start again.  Linux just flows power very
smoothly
to each peice of software.

8 or more DESKTOPS to start applications on.
Up to 64 seperate logins from which you and others can use.
What's so cool about Linux is you can take your ONE p.c. and share it's power
with others in your house.  For most American family's one PC will do with
Linux.
Everybody uses that ONE linux box simultaneously on the internet, browsing the
web and reading their E-mail.
That is awesome!

Linux can't suffer as badly from VIRUSES as 98 can.  Every user is
compartimentalized.
IF you get a virus into your compartment, then the virus just destroyes that
section of the OS you've been assigned.
It won't take down the OS nor the other users.

You don't need to RE-BOOT all the time to make chanes to TCP-IP or add services
such as
a WEB SERVER.  BTW, you have a WEB SERVER!  You have your own FTP SERVER.  You
have your
own unlimited telnet access to your box!  You've got free compilers to support
several languages to program in.
You get several free database systems to use!  You can play games like QUAKE!

I started off with Slackware, then Redhat, then Mandrake 7.0 and now I'm going
to Suse 6.4 soon.
I've also use Debian on another box.

>
> What are the basic disadvantages for runnig Linux?

I've been VERY HONEST with myself and I can see NO disadvantages what so ever.
I have my choice of 3 very good office systems on Linux, Applix, Word Perfect,
Star Office,
or any number of GNU versions....  Most of the GNU versions work very well
also.

I have more room to store data on my machine now as Linux seems to have a
smaller footprint
than NT did or 98.  It's about 2 times faster than 98 and 1.5 times faster than
NT 4.0 with SP4.

I have my choice of 4 web browsers to use.  The KDE has such capabilities that
virually every open
file box you have can be turned into a web browser by typing
http://www.xxx.com where the file name is typed.
The KDE is a desktop by the way.  GNOME and KDE are your two BIG desktops!

There must be 12 or more GOOD editors for developing CODE in.

You can get Oracle 8I for Linux!
You can get all the Borland compliers and sofisticated GUI builders for Linux
come next year!
VMWARE the software which let's you run more than one OS on your machine!

Just about any linux distribution can be installed on your machine as either a
Desktop or
Server or COMBO, your choice.  No more buying seperate server and desktop
software!

Suse 6.4 is just $40 and in my opinion would beat Redhat 6.2 delux for $65.
So no matter which way you go , it's still cheaper than $350 for Windows 2000
and Linux runs around 2-3 times faster than Windows 2000 on ANY given task.
Especially WEB SERVING using apache!


>
> Will my programs run the same even if they are meant to be run under a
> windows 98 OS?

Nope!  WINE is the windows emulator under Linux and while it may run some
things,
it won't run all your windows software.  But take heed.  The average Linux
distribution
had 4 CD's in it.  Suse 6.4 has 6 of them!  On all those CD's you will find a
replacement
for just about anything you had running on Windows 98!

I removed Windows 98 from my hard drive and I've never had a NEED to re-load or
re-use
any windows software.  In-fact, I gave all my stuff away!   I just don't need
it anymore.

Most the Linux software is either a MATCH for my 98 software or it EXCEEDED my
98 software
in functionality.

I will admit to buying Applix in the last 2 years.  I bought it because I
really liked it.
But I also have the FREE download of Star OFFICE from Sun Microsystems.
That's a MUCH EXCELLENT PACKAGE also.
And I have the personal edition of Word Perfect which is is very good also.


>
> Will I still be able to use Internet Explorer and programs that I currently
> have.
>

Netscape is the main browser on linux.  Internet Explorer is a
MICROSOFT ONLY application
and will probably never be available for Linux.  All in all there are 3
different web browsers
I use on Linux myself.  Netscape, KDE's desktop which is a natural web browser,
and
LYNX over the telnet.


>
> I apoligize ahead of time for my ignorance, I know absolutley NOTHING about
> Linux.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Adrians,

What ever you do, don't be scared about this.  Fear will cripple you into
NEVER experimenting
with NEW things and you will never progress forward.  Go buy a $40 box of Suse
6.4 and install
it on your machine!  It has more TOY's on it than any other distribution.  It's
the BIGGEST toy
box there is right now!

Install it on the same disk drive you have Windows 98 on.  Use the partition
tool to divide your
disk into two peices.  Give Windows 98 half of your disk and Suse the other
half.

Suse will install a boot selector which will allow you to go back and forth
between windows 98
and Suse until you have lost all your fears.

Some day, you be just like me and be running Linux Full time and not need
Windows 98 for anything.
When I did that I saved myself probably $2000 a year in software I used to buy.

It would have been cheaper for me to have been addicted to drugs than stay on
Microsoft!  HA!

Good luck to you Adrians and don't hesitate to come back and talk with us
again.
If you need anything one of us will be here for you.


Take Care
Charlie






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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: 16 Apr 2000 21:36:50 GMT

Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Karel Jansens wrote:
> > 
> > (as usual, the last word is for Warp. Yay!)
> 
> KJ] I just said I put you guys in my killfilter.
> KJ] Why are you replying to me?
> 
> Yet another example of your inconsistency.  :-)

I know. Isn't it fun !?

Karel Jansens
jansens_at_attglobal_dot_net
========================================================
"Hi! I'm a signature virus.
Pls put me in yr sigline and help me spread."
========================================================



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From: "Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hadrware,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Athlon
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:38:22 GMT

> Recent info says that you might need a special kernel for Linux to run
> properly on this CPU.

That is not true. It is possible (in fact likely) that Athlon would require
different optimizations,
but it's still an x86 CPU.

> Does anyone know conclusively is this is true?  I want to buy Athlon
> just to keep Intel from running the whole show and of course run Linux
> on it to keep Microsloth from owning the show and theatre both.

And I want to buy an Athlon because of its superior FPU performance and
lower price.
But I can't afford it this year, so I'll stick to my trusty K6/2-300 for
now. And I run Linux
because of its superior reliability and security.

Eugene



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lund)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:44:56 +0100

In article <ZcnK4.42715$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Mayer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So on the Mac, do you look at an application that contains documents, or do
> you just look at documents?

If I understand you correctly, I look at the documents.

> On the PC the trend is toward the looking at documents, although some MDI
> applications still exist. The fact that on the Mac you would select the app,
> and then select the document from within the app using the "window" menu,
> tells me that it uses the other.

You *could* do that. Or you could do as I usually do; select the document
and then let it (the OS, actually) call the app needed to read it. Most
apps can be called indirectly, via their docs. The one exception I know of
offhand are unmerged Forge maps, which (annoyingly enough) call the game
engine when opened.

> But this application centric. Do you really
> prefer the application centric model?

You've made some wrong assumptions, so this question doesn't apply.

-- 

C Lund
http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/

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From: "Rich C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Linux User Question
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:49:12 -0400

"Tobias Adrianse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:NJoK4.17580$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am interested in making the transition to Linux as my OS.  I currently
run
> Win98.  If this is a bad newsgroup for this post please direct me to one
> that is better.
>
> What are the basic advantages for running Linux.  ( I am looking into red
> hat)
> What are the basic disadvantages for runnig Linux?
> Will my programs run the same even if they are meant to be run under a
> windows 98 OS?
> Will I still be able to use Internet Explorer and programs that I
currently
> have.
>
> I apoligize ahead of time for my ignorance, I know absolutley NOTHING
about
> Linux.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
I gather from your post that you do not want to give up the Windows programs
you currently use. Under these circumstances, you probably should stick with
Windows for the time being.

Using Linux forces you to change most if not all the programs you currently
use for others, which, at the very least, will work differently, and, for
right now, are not as "feature-laden" as their Windows counterparts.

You could run VMware on top of Linux to keep all your Windows apps, but, why
bother? You MIGHT gain some reliability from doing this, but then again, you
might not.

The ideal candidate for Linux is someone for whom Windows just "doesn't do
it" for one reason or another--either they want to learn programming and
can't afford the 400 odd bucks for Visual Studio, or they want to build
their own web server, or they want to learn a new operating system for fun
or profit, or they are just sick of the unreliability of Windows.

The individual who wants to try Linux just because they've heard so much
about it is NOT the ideal candidate for Linux. This type of person will get
discouraged very easily.

-- Rich C.
"Great minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people."




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: 16 Apr 2000 20:44:45 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> On 10 Apr 2000 10:41:56 GMT, James Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >what M$ really need todo is almost scrap the whoel lot and start again
>> >and do it properly (they can afford to)
>> >
>> 
>> They supposidly did w/ NT.  The problem is that their architects are
>> morons.

> have you ever seen any of their code samples????

> Fucking GOTO's all over the place.

Have you looked at the source for the linux kernel?

Same thing.  

Theyre fast.




=====yttrx


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From: Mig Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Linux User Question
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 21:47:35 +0200

Tobias Adrianse wrote:
> I am interested in making the transition to Linux as my OS.  I currently run
> Win98.  If this is a bad newsgroup for this post please direct me to one
> that is better.
> 
> What are the basic advantages for running Linux.  ( I am looking into red
> hat)

For me its stability and diversity and the fact that i can control my system
nearly as i please.

> What are the basic disadvantages for runnig Linux?

Linux lacks productivity applications and its still a programmers system
even though more focus is being put on the average computer user at the
moment. Take a look at http://www.kde.org and http://www.gnome.org wich are
desktop enviroments that let you control your system much the same way as
Windows or the MacIntosh.

> Will my programs run the same even if they are meant to be run under a
> windows 98 OS?

No! There is WINE (http://www.winehq.com) that will eventually let you run
Windows applications, but its not particular stable. F.ex. i can run MS
Word and FrontPage Express but not IE (This might have changed with a later
version of WINE)

 > Will I still be able to use Internet Explorer and
programs that I currently  have.

No.. Linux does not emulate Windows... its a completely different system.
This means that you will have to use completely different applications
(unless the same app exists in a Linux Version like f.ex. WordPerfect or
StarOffice). 

You could install Linux on the machine you have Windows on and try it out
without deleting Windows. This way you could allways boot Windows if there
are applications you need or if Linux is just not for you

> 
> I apoligize ahead of time for my ignorance, I know absolutley NOTHING about
> Linux.

Try the installation and leave your Windows partition intact so that you
can return to Windows if Linux does not please you

Greetings

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: New Linux User Question
Date: 16 Apr 2000 16:49:28 -0400

On Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:44:26 -0700, Tobias Adrianse wrote:

>What are the basic advantages for running Linux.  ( I am looking into red
>hat)

Depends on what you want to do with it. Here are some advantages:

(1)     Linux is UNIX on a PC. So any UNIX software that you might be familiar
        with ( TeX, pine, emacs, gcc/g++ ) comes with Linux.

(2)     Linux gives you a complete collection of servers. If you're interested
        in web development, this is nice, because you can run your own 
        webserver and use this to test your dynamic pages.

(3)     Linux comes with more programming tools than you can poke a stick
        at. COmpilers like g++ amd gcc, as well as languages like perl, python
        and tcl, and toolkits that you can use with those languages.

(4)     Linux is easier on the new user than traditional UNIX. While it is
        much the saame under the hood, there is a lot of newbie-friendly
        documentation for Linux. Linux is definitely the easiest
        UNIX to get started with.

>What are the basic disadvantages for runnig Linux?

Third party support ( hardware / software )

>Will my programs run the same even if they are meant to be run under a
>windows 98 OS?

No, they wont.

>Will I still be able to use Internet Explorer and programs that I currently
>have.

No, you won't. You will need to look for programs that have similar 
functionality on Linux. If you go in with the mindset "I want to run
MS Word, MSIE, and Photoshop", you'll get burned. If your mentality is
"I need a web browser, a word processor, and an image editor", you might
find Linux OK.

-- 
Donovan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C Lund)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Become a Windows Registry Expert!
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 22:52:49 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > The answer to that question is quite simple.  Because you can use
the same 
> > > app
> > > to do 3 completely different things at the same time, without relying on 
> > > the
> > > programmer to have the forethought of creating their own "MDI" or their 
> > > own tasking strategy.
> > Apparently, this just isn't a problem on the mac.
> Have you written any such apps to know that?

The non-existant problem I was referring to was hoping that the
programmers having "the forethought of creating their own "MDI" or their
own tasking strategy." Non-existant because (if I understood you
correctly), most writers of mac-apps seem to have that forethought.

And no, I have not written any such apps. Have you?

-- 

C Lund
http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/

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