Linux-Advocacy Digest #268, Volume #26 Wed, 26 Apr 00 14:13:43 EDT
Contents:
Re: Red Hat Linux Backdoor Password Vulnerability (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
(s_Ea_DAag0n)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
(s_Ea_DAag0n)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: i cant blieve you people!! (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux Backdoor Password Vulnerability
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:04:12 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Ah, isn't the world of Linux wonderful?? I don't use Redhat so this is
> not an issue for me! This app is not a core Linux app and is only
> distributed by Redhat. If Redhat continues to ship insecure software,
> people will start using the more secure distributions. No retraining, no
> redesign, some time switching distributions but that's nothing compared
> to what it would take to break MS habit! I LOVE CHOICE! Were will MS
> users go if MS continues to insert back doors into it's product???
heh heh heh
>
> In article <CM8N4.6410$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Seeing as how a simple buffer overrun was mistreated as a "backdoor"
> that was
> > purposely placed by Microsoft, I thought it was only fitting to see
> how
> > Open Sores can fall victim to the same thing.
> >
> > http://xforce.iss.net/alerts/advise46.php3
> >
> > 'cept, it's not just a buffer overrun, it's an actual password placed
> in the
> > product so that your linux box can be more easily used for DDoS'ing
> large
> > eCommerce sites without having to mess around with actually hacking
> the box
> > (not that that is harder or anything).
> >
> > "With this backdoor password, an attacker could compromise the web
> server as
> > well as deface and destroy the web site."
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:09:29 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Craig Kelley wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > steve jobsniak wrote:
> > >
> > > i cant believe you peolpe... micorsoft is going down, taking the rest of
> > > the tech stocks down alogn with it, and you folks are
> > > *happy*!!! will you only be happy when the entire stock market
> > > crashess, taking the economy, your job, and preciuos apple with it???
> >
> > The stock market is over-valued as it is.
> >
> > It's an accident waiting to happen.
> >
> > Price:earning ratios in the range of 30:1 to 200:1 do NOT make for a
> > ROBUST stock market.....they make for a stampeding bull headed for
> > a cliff.
>
> Except that everyone's retirement accounts keep pouring into the
> system every month.
And what happens when ... the baby boomers retire, and start taking
money out?
Hmmmmmmmmm
Stocks are being purchased as a commodity right now, in the same was
as tulip bulbs in Holland 3 centuries ago.... actual evaluation of
the economic performance of companies is not being taken into account
by most stock purchasers.... that, combined with mutual funds having
various rules by which the fund manager MUST abide (such as "This fund
will be 95% invested in securities AT ALL TIMES) means that money
is going into purchasing stocks, even when the rates of return are
dismal, merely on the promise that the trading price will continue to
climb.
But...30+:1 P:E ratios cannot be sustained forever.
That comes to 3% yield.
Prime rate is at 7%.
When enough baby-boomers stop blindly dumping money into the market
(like, when they retire), the dividends will look insanely small,
there will be a rush on bonds, and the stock market will collapse.
Have fun. I'll be overseas.
>
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:10:28 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lennart Gahm wrote:
>
> On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:58:15 -0400, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >steve jobsniak wrote:
> >>
> >> i cant believe you peolpe... micorsoft is going down, taking the rest of
> >> the tech stocks down alogn with it, and you folks are
> >> *happy*!!! will you only be happy when the entire stock market
> >> crashess, taking the economy, your job, and preciuos apple with it???
> >
> >The stock market is over-valued as it is.
> >
> >It's an accident waiting to happen.
> >
> >Price:earning ratios in the range of 30:1 to 200:1 do NOT make for a
> >ROBUST stock market.....they make for a stampeding bull headed for
> >a cliff.
>
> And MSFT has dropped down to around 45:1 for the moment.
> It is still to high, 15:1 is a better ratio, at least for
> me to even consider to invest in most companies.
I'm putting money in, but I'm pulling out before the peak of
the baby-boomer population hits retirement age.
When they retire, the market will plummet.
>
> Lennart
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:13:05 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"David D. Huff Jr." wrote:
>
> There should be parties in the streets! BillG should also be tried for
> crimes against humanity. Because of his blind ideology to put every one out
> of business with HIS vision of the future. Thank God, that this type of
> global tyranny was stopped!
Absolutely.
The nerd is a megalomaniac.
And let's not forget the hypocrisy.
His BASIC interpreter was an outright plagiarization if the DEC PDP-11
BASIC interpreter.
Or... name *ANY* other language that uses CTRL-Z as an end-of-file
marker.
>
> steve jobsniak wrote:
>
> > i cant believe you peolpe... micorsoft is going down, taking the rest of
> > the tech stocks down alogn with it, and you folks are
> > *happy*!!! will you only be happy when the entire stock market
> > crashess, taking the economy, your job, and preciuos apple with it???
> > of course you'll change you're minds then, but why not change your mind
> > now WHILE YOU CAN STILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE and keep it from happening?
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:15:13 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In <8e378b$5jv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, steve jobsniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |i cant believe you peolpe... micorsoft is going down, taking the rest of
> |the tech stocks down alogn with it, and you folks are
> |*happy*!!! will you only be happy when the entire stock market
> |crashess, taking the economy, your job, and preciuos apple with it???
> |of course you'll change you're minds then, but why not change your mind
> |now WHILE YOU CAN STILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE and keep it from happening?
>
> Steve,
>
> How can you be so simple minded? Don't you realize that the real
> problem is that Gates is willing to see the entire economy suffer
> rather than compromise... or even, just "play well with others"?
>
> Fact is, millions of idiots now dominate the stock market. Urged on
> to ever greater fantasy by the ever-upward success of MS & Cisco,
> these folks have no ablilty to hang in there when things don't go
> so well. Witness the lemming like surges up & down, based only on
> rumors about what DOJ will or will not ask for as MS's punishment.
>
> The quetion you should be asking is: Why won't Gates & Co. cut a
> deal with the DOJ? Don't these guys have faith in their own
> products and technologies to succeed in the marketplace without the
> boost of their monopolistic practices?
Nope.
They KNOW it's shit. And Steve BAWWWWWLmer pees his pants thinking
about having to compete in a market place where M$ can't bully
the OEMs around like scared orphans out of Oliver Twist...
>
> Never mind, I think I answered my own question...
>
> regards,
>
> Guido
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:16:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Kim A. Sommer" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In <8e378b$5jv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, steve jobsniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
> >|i cant believe you peolpe... micorsoft is going down, taking the rest of
> >|the tech stocks down alogn with it, and you folks are
> >|*happy*!!! will you only be happy when the entire stock market
> >|crashess, taking the economy, your job, and preciuos apple with it???
> >|of course you'll change you're minds then, but why not change your mind
> >|now WHILE YOU CAN STILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE and keep it from happening?
> >
> >Steve,
> >
> >How can you be so simple minded? Don't you realize that the real
> >problem is that Gates is willing to see the entire economy suffer
> >rather than compromise... or even, just "play well with others"?
>
> [snip]
> >The quetion you should be asking is: Why won't Gates & Co. cut a
> >deal with the DOJ? Don't these guys have faith in their own
> >products and technologies to succeed in the marketplace without the
> >boost of their monopolistic practices?
>
> I'm still surprised the MS stockholders haven't raised a fuss with the
> board for not settling the case out of court. That seems to be a prime
> example of not protecting the shareholders' interests. But then maybe
> hypnotism really does work.
Yes, it does.
Wanna have fun. Hypnotize a whole nightclub full of strippers! HAH!
>
> FWIW
> Kim
> --
> -------
> Kim A. Sommer
> Humans do it Better! The Open Directory Project - http://dmoz.org
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s_Ea_DAag0n)
Subject: Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:15:12 GMT
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:30:08 GMT, Mike Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jesus Christ man.. he gives an example of what he's done himself and you
>friggin' insult him? Everytime someone gives an example or idea that's
>different from your preferred way and you either call them clueless or claim
>they know nothing... nice way to debate.
Yes, I know. I would like to publically apologize to Mr. Mikesell. In
this case it was I who was completely clueless about the subject matter -
it had momentarily completely slipped my mind about the terminal server.
I actually tried to cancel the message when I realized my error, but
didn't work somehow apparently. I appreciate the calm responses from both
of you - you both deserved to be much more angry at me than you came off
as. I agree that I was very rude - even for advocacy.
>I've personally setup a modem on a Unix box (connected directly to the box no
>less) for a consultant in another city so that we could dial into it to do
>configurations, or to fix problems.
>
>Just because _you_ haven't done something, or don't normally do it that way,
>doesn't mean it isn't done.
I was completely wrong on this issue. I admit it. Again, I apologize for
hurling insults.
>Prefer, yes... but I admin some remote machines via phone at times... even
>done it over 2400 baud. Sometimes it's the most cost effective way to do it,
>if they don't have full net access.
When would a machine not have full (but partial?) net access? Is this a
case of something behind a firewall, or something where just all of the
daemons are not turned on?
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:22:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Joe Ragosta wrote:
>
> In article <8e4elh$mlg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Kim A. Sommer) wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >In <8e378b$5jv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, steve jobsniak
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >|i cant believe you peolpe... micorsoft is going down, taking the rest
> > >|of
> > >|the tech stocks down alogn with it, and you folks are
> > >|*happy*!!! will you only be happy when the entire stock market
> > >|crashess, taking the economy, your job, and preciuos apple with it???
> > >|of course you'll change you're minds then, but why not change your mind
> > >|now WHILE YOU CAN STILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE and keep it from happening?
> > >
> > >Steve,
> > >
> > >How can you be so simple minded? Don't you realize that the real
> > >problem is that Gates is willing to see the entire economy suffer
> > >rather than compromise... or even, just "play well with others"?
> >
> > [snip]
> > >The quetion you should be asking is: Why won't Gates & Co. cut a
> > >deal with the DOJ? Don't these guys have faith in their own
> > >products and technologies to succeed in the marketplace without the
> > >boost of their monopolistic practices?
> >
> > I'm still surprised the MS stockholders haven't raised a fuss with the
> > board for not settling the case out of court. That seems to be a prime
> > example of not protecting the shareholders' interests. But then maybe
> > hypnotism really does work.
>
> Actually, they'd have a hard case.
>
> MS still has a few cards up its sleeve. They could also have been sued
Yeah... they might have a couple of face cards, but the DOJ has all
of the trump cards:
1. M$ internal memos
2. Anti-competitive contracts with OEMs.
3. 20 different STATE'S ATTORNEYS chomping at the bit
4. Japanese already removed their hindquarters in court.
> if they settled out of court too early.
>
> It's a tough position to be in.
No...it's a goddamned STUPID position to be in.....why? Because it's
the result of their own BEHAVIOR
(By the way, I'm a libertarian. I believe in Free Markets...which is
why I oppose M$...because M$ has done EVERYTHING within their power
to PREVENT having to compete in a free market.
You know what I love seeing:
Walking into Best Buy, and seeing a whole length of shelf covered
with 5 different brands of Linux...on the shelf NEAREST to the
front door....and BeOS, too.
Walking into CompUSA, and seeing a whole shelflength devoted to Linux,
PLUS two end-displays on a heavily travelled main-aisleway.
Linux has lost their grip on two MAJOR retailers..and will never
regain it.
Heh, heh, heh.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Joe Ragosta
>
> Get $10 free:
> https://secure.paypal.com/auction/pal=jragosta%40earthlink.net
>
> Or get paid to browse the web (Mac or PC):
> http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=KJS595
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s_Ea_DAag0n)
Subject: Re: "Technical" vs. "Non-technical"... (was Re: Grasping perspective...)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:20:51 GMT
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:51:33 GMT, Mike Marion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>s_Ea_DAag0n wrote:
>Did you even bother to try giving it another superblock using the -b flag with
>e2fsck? I know I've salvaged filesystems on Solaris boxes in the past doing
>this when a disk was dying... gave a chance to save the data before the disk
>ate it completely.
The problem is, I didn't/don't have a bootable disk with e2fsck. Maybe
I should make one in the future, but in this case I didn't. Obviously I
couldn't use the copy on the hard drive. :-)
>> [asychronous I/O]
>
>But you claim it's so important for any OS to be worth your time... so it
>being in ther (no matter what it takes) should be more important then how
>elegant it is.
While I do believe that it is extremely important, it is not a show
stopper for my work. I was using it more of an example of something
that Linux is deficient in, technically, rather than something which
affects me as a user.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:24:13 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric Bennett wrote:
>
> In article <3905e24b$5$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Germer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 04/25/2000 at 10:46 AM,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim A. Sommer) said:
> >
> > > I'm still surprised the MS stockholders haven't raised a fuss with the
> > > board for not settling the case out of court. That seems to be a prime
> > > example of not protecting the shareholders' interests. But then maybe
> > > hypnotism really does work.
> >
> > > FWIW
> > > Kim
> >
> > Despite the vast numbers of shares outstanding, insiders still have
> > virtually absolute control over MS. It is generally accepted that a 5-10%
> > stake in a company is sufficient to exert control. Bill G alone has
> > nearly
> > 40% with Allen another huge chunk.
>
> I don't think Gates has that much, especially after his recent donations
Hmmm, i wonder why he chose THEN to do it.
Get a big tax write off, before the ruling makes the value drop
precipitously? (All the while, avoiding the problems of if he announced
the SALE of blocks totalling several percentage-points of equity...)
> of stock. I think he's down to around 20-25% (which is, of course,
> still a lot).
>
> --
> Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ )
> Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology
>
> CBS News report on Fort Worth tornado damage:
> "Eight major downtown buildings were severely damaged and 1,000 homes were
> damaged, with 95 uninhabitable. Gov. George W. Bush declared Tarrant County
> a disaster area. Federal Emergency Management Agency workers are expected
> to arrive sometime next week after required paperwork is completed."
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:24:34 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric Bennett wrote:
>
> In article <8e4elh$mlg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Kim A. Sommer) wrote:
>
> > I'm still surprised the MS stockholders haven't raised a fuss with the
> > board for not settling the case out of court. That seems to be a prime
> > example of not protecting the shareholders' interests. But then maybe
> > hypnotism really does work.
>
> From what I have seen, most shareholders put the blame on Janet Reno,
> not Bill Gates.
What do you expect?
>
> --
> Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ )
> Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology
>
> CBS News report on Fort Worth tornado damage:
> "Eight major downtown buildings were severely damaged and 1,000 homes were
> damaged, with 95 uninhabitable. Gov. George W. Bush declared Tarrant County
> a disaster area. Federal Emergency Management Agency workers are expected
> to arrive sometime next week after required paperwork is completed."
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: i cant blieve you people!!
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:25:47 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marty wrote:
>
> Eric Bennett wrote:
> >
> > In article <8e4elh$mlg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (Kim A. Sommer) wrote:
> >
> > > I'm still surprised the MS stockholders haven't raised a fuss with the
> > > board for not settling the case out of court. That seems to be a prime
> > > example of not protecting the shareholders' interests. But then maybe
> > > hypnotism really does work.
> >
> > From what I have seen, most shareholders put the blame on Janet Reno,
> > not Bill Gates.
>
> Who would you rather go up against, Janet Reno or Bill Gates? I think most
> shareholders put the blame on Bill Gates. ;-)
Most current shareholders have no qualms with anti-competitive business
practices.
Thus, THEY are being punished for supporting a felonious corporation.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
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