Linux-Advocacy Digest #268, Volume #32 Sat, 17 Feb 01 14:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: .NET is plain .NUTS (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Linux fails to deliver on the hype (Pete Goodwin)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Mark Bratcher)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Linux 64 bit and Windows 32 bit (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Joke of the day - from Microsoft (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Interesting article (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .NET is plain .NUTS
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:45:04 -0500
Mart van de Wege wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay boys and girls.
> >>
> >> We all have employers. Even if you own your own business you
> >> have employers.
> >>
> >> And from my own experience working in the world of Windows,
> >> producing code for even the LARGEST of multi billion dollar
> >> companies, I'm ashamed to say that they *ALL* cheat.
> >>
> >> They *ALL* take one copy of NT and install it across 50
> >> machines or more. They *ALL* take one copy of Word and install
> >> it across 50 machines or more.
> >>
> >> 30% of which I've noticed do it deliberately!
> >>
> >> The other 70% attempt to keep records but the fucking
> >> employee's go out there on their own and install all kinds of
> >> unauthorized software anyway.
> >>
> >> If your going to play the Windows game legally, you have to
> >> buy the license.
> >>
> >> I feel the *REASON* why Windows is still the most preferred
> >> desktop is because the *EMPLOYERS* are treating Windows like
> >> it were shareware or even GPL'd Linux. I even remember one
> >> company who loaned *THEIR* copy of NT to a customer just so
> >> they could get NT installed to use *OUR* application!
> >>
> Charlie,
>
> Although I agree with your sentiment, I must say that my
> employer is a different animal altogether. As I stated in
> another thread, we are currently migrating to NT4.0 for our
> workstations (OT: Properly configured and managed by a competent
> IT staff, not a bunch of click-happy MCSEs, NT4.0 is actually a
> quite decent workstation OS) and every NT machine has its own
> individual license number properly affixed to the machine
> itself.
> For the record (since I am saying positive things I am sure they
> don't mind) I work for the ING group, which definitely is one of
> the bigger financial institutions in Europe, so proper NT
> licensing must be costing us a fair bit, yet we are still
> posting record profits. It must also be said that this is a rare
You would make even HIGHER profits if they migrated to Linux and
the money spent on NT were used for other purposes (such as...making
revenue-producing LOANS).
> beast: they are a very fair employer, even going above and
> beyond the Netherlands' relatively strict employment laws, so I
EVERY company with intelligent management treats their employees well.
Management which abuses their employees reaps the rewards...poor
productivity and high turn-over.
> think their policy on software licensing is just another example
> of a fair company policy.
> Also, since our workstations are nowhere near a standard NT
> configuration, I think us being a large customer has given us
> some leeway with MS.
> Don't know how our US division handles things though, and given
> the horror stories I keep hearing about audits in the US, I
> think that you are right and a lot of companies have illicit
> software installations, and they *will* feel the crunch if
> compulsory registration through the internet is enforced.
>
> Mart
>
> --
> Happily running Debian, posting with Pan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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Subject: Re: Linux fails to deliver on the hype
From: imekon@$$$REMOVE$$$.freeuk.com (Pete Goodwin)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:46:09 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>In this article I admitted I made a mistake and apologised.
>>>I did see that, the mistake related to your header title, which was
>>>not only inacurate, it was inflammatory.
>>So my apology was inflammatory or the title? Which one?
>Just the title Pete.
OK, just your post didn't make that very clear.
>>>> I was accused of being a liar, and then I posted the URL's, which
>>>>the accuser failed to acknowledge. Flatfish is referring to this, I
>>>>believe, when he calls it the "Twist and Shout" method.
>>>While you pay any credance to "Heather/Clare/Flatfish" you will always
>>>be disbelieved on COLA. He/her/it is a known Wintroll.
>>Maybe so, but when others start playing the same tune?
>Other Wintrolls, like you perhaps?
You tell me. Go and look below and find the article I mention.
>>On that unstable much loved system known as Windows 98 SE.
>>Linux Mandrake 7.2 - not recommended - see the topic titled
>>"Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?"
>Nope,Mandrake7.2 hasnt BSOD on me once yet!
You did read the post didn't you? Did you see the problems others are
finding too? Are all those people posting in that WinTrolls too, along with
yet another note?
--
Pete Goodwin
---
On that unstable much loved system known as Windows 98 SE.
Linux Mandrake 7.2 - not recommended - see the topic titled
"Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:45:46 GMT
In article <96l1kk$1m9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd wrote:
>
>"Mark Bratcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> PMFJI... but "disposed of accordingly" in "more 'spiritual' days"?
>> Could you be more specific? The only period of time I see more universal
>> "disposal" of offspring outside of primitive cultures is in modern
>> days (viz. abortion). What your describing certainly was not true in
>> family culture described in the Old Testament.
>
>How do you know what is written in the "Old Testament" is true?
How do you know that what is written in any historical text is true?
Usually through coroboration of other historical materials.
The Bible is one of the most highly coroborated history texts in
existence.
>
>I've found most Christians either very hypocritical or just plain
>disillusioned and wrong.
I'm sorry that you've had that kind of experience with Christians.
And since it has been your experience, I can't say that you're wrong.
I can say that Christians are human and will make mistakes like
anyone else. Also, many can get a bit zealous and, thus, become
hypocritical. In such cases, I would hope that you wouldn't throw
out the baby with the bath water, as it were.
>
>Remember when Christians thought the earth was the center of the universe?
>Heh. Time after time, scientists prove Christians wrong again and again.
Well, _everyone_ thought that the earth was the center of the universe
until Galileo came along. Like I said, they were all just people making
a conclusion from observations, and I agree they were digging in their
heels based upon a misconception of the Bible. The Bible certainly does not
describe the earth as being the center of the universe. That was a human
invention and, I agree, erroneously in the name of religion.
Long before Christopher Columbus (or whoever :-)) the Bible in the
Psalms reverse to the "sphere of the earth".
Science is an act of identifying patterns in the observable universe
and comprehending other observations in terms of patterns from previous
observations. Names are given to things to help communicate this information.
Although I would agree that scientists have proved mass religous zealots
incorrect in some things, science also proves itself wrong as well over
time. Scientists abhore this type of change. They work very hard at
guarding their beliefs as much as the religious folk they criticize.
Scientific beliefs are based upon, as I said, observations of patterns
and drawing conclusions from that. Although our powers of observation
have increased multi-fold in the last few decades, there appears to be
no end to finding out there's so much more that is unknown or currently
unobservable. I have a high degree of respect for science with respect to
its ability to give us (a) observations and ability to see patterns
and explain phenomena, many times to our benefit, and (b) simply
revealing the beauty and structure of the universe. However, I think
many things go beyond science, and to make science effectively into a
religion is counterproductive.
>
>Religion sucks. All it does is gives man another reason to hate one
>another.
I define "religion" as man's messing up what God's will really is
and making it into his own system of laws. In that regard, I agree,
religion sucks. However, at least according to the Bible I've read
many times, there is nothing in there that says we're supposed to hate
one another. If people are hating one another in the name of "religion"
then that's man's invention of religion, not God's will.
Of course, scientists are a fine example of people who never hate
each other, always in harmonious agreement. :-)
--
Mark Bratcher
To reply, remove both underscores (_) from my email name
===========================================================
Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:49:01 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > : My comments where not being used as a proof. I am bored by Materialist
> > : because their phylosophy is so easily shown to be false.
>
> > Nobody's done it yet. WTF are you talking about?
>
> I think we need to help him here... He appears not to know what the word
> materialism means...
>
> The goal of materialism is to acquire money and things to improve your
> quality of life at the cost of moral/spiritual/whatever health...
That's the 'vernacular' definition.
Surenko's definition of materialism is the correct one.
[Get an introductory book on philosophy]
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
> | in | suck is probably the day they start making |
> | Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:49:27 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> >> I am a Democrat. Please take your politics to a political forum.
> >>
>
> > Fuck off, Socialist.
>
> LOL! That's a good one... Calling an american "Democrat" a socialist...
Their ideology is totally socialist.
> ROTFL! There's no such thing as a socialist in america. (Not in any serious
> political position anyway). They're both as bad as each other.
>
> Oh, and fuck off arsehole... Lose that fucking sig!!!!
> (how many times have you been told about that now?)
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
> | | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
> | in |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
> | Computer Science | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux 64 bit and Windows 32 bit
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:57:13 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> >> > It seems unlikely that the Itanium code can be called finished
> >> >> > until the chip ships.
> >> >>
> >> >> In case you hadn't noticed, the Itanium is shipping now, in HP
> >> >> computers.
> >> >>
> >> >> MS somehow coerced intel in to not releasing it for lower end stuff
> >> >> until MS were finished.
> >> >
> >> > To the benefit of AMD.
> >> >
> >> > I'll bet this is the LAST time Intel ever makes a deal like that.
> >>
> >> I hope so. If the 64 bit AMD cpus hit the market soon, they could make
> >> a really big impact.
> >
> > I believe they already are...
>
> Can you buy a 64bit AMD computer?
>
> Do they run Linux yet?
>
> How much are they?
>
> I wouldn't mind a link.
My mistake. AMD has the specs for their x86-64 line, but the chip
isn't in productiong yet.
:-(
>
> You see, I'm reccomending a computer for someone for number crunching.
> They've already decided to use Linux, so if there are reasonably priced
> 64 bit computers out there, one would be worth getting instead of a 32
> bit computer.
>
> > This was the original reason why Kernighan and Ritchie came up with the
> > C language...after the first time Unix was ported (around
> > 1970) from a PDP-8(?) to a PDP-11, the Unix team decided that they
> > NEVER wanted to port an assembly-language kernel ever again.
>
> Yep. UNIX was the first portably (ie non assebmer) OS ever written.
>
>
> > C was invented so that they could rewrite the kernel in C, and then,
> > when new hardware came along, 90% of the code would be ported by simply
> > writing a compiler.
>
> > And because of this is why DARPA (US Defence Advanced Research Projects
> > Agency) picked Unix for the highly-portable operating system
> > project.....better known as BSD Unix.
>
> There is a very good reason thet UNIX has been around as long as it has.
Most of all...because it's a damn fine OS.
> -Ed
>
> --
> Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
> - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
> |eng.ox.ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Joke of the day - from Microsoft
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:02:47 -0500
Glitch wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> >
> > mlw wrote:
> >
> >> Lloyd Llewellyn wrote:
> >>
> >>>> ``Free software is evil'' sez Microsoft.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4833927.html?tag=mn_hd
> >>>
> >>> Excuse me, is there anyone out there who thinks this is *funny*?
> >>>
> >>> Microsoft trying to get the government to view open source software as a
> >>> threat the the American way?
> >>>
> >>> Gee, I just can't stop laughing.
> >>
> >> If I thought for a moment that our elected officials would let something as
> >> important as common sense keep them from accepting "educational"
> >> contributions from Microsoft, I would allow myself to laugh.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, GW (idiot son of a bad president) proves that our entire
> >> system is for sale. Fix a few elections, buy a few people, appoint
> >> Ashcroft, it is a sad period in my counties history. I think we have
> >> hit rock bottom, unfortunately, they are looking for shovels.
> >
>
> At least now we have a President worthy of that title. We also have one
> who actually has morals and is a devout Christian(which never hurt
> anyone in and of itself).
>
> I think we already hit rock bottom with Clinton being in the Oral
> office. Bush will turn the status of the Presidency around as being one
> of respect and morality.
I understand they had to sanitize the interior of the white house
by flushing it out with Super-Topical Bleach (50% as opposed to
household strength 3%).....from a fire hose.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:04:09 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:22:57 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >"Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > >> I think .NET is more akin to "Cairo" than to MS Bob or Money. In terms
> > >> of it's intended scope and effect on the market.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, however pieces of .NET are appearing all the time, whereas
> Cairo
> > > was mostly vapor for a long time, waiting for the one big release.
> >
> > Which of course never came. But that didn't matter because OS/2 and
> > it's OO shell was out of the picture.
>
> About the only part of Cairo that was promised that never happened was the
> OO File system.
Still lagging behind Unix...which has had an object oriented filesystem
since the beginning.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:06:29 -0500
Giuliano Colla wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > Charlie Ebert wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <96l491$2td$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd wrote:
> > > >
> > > >The bottom line is this: The guys running the shops who need to make a
> > > >living *know* that consumers would balk at Linux... heck, Linux doesn't even
> > > >have a decent browser!
> > > >
> > > >Don't blame Linux' problems on MS. Linux is an open system and its problems
> > > >are not in anyway MS' fault.
> > > >
> > > >-Todd
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > No I won't Todd. And you can tell Microsoft they can't blame their
> > > fucking problems on Linux nor OPEN SOURCE as they've been mouthing
> > > off in the media the last 2 weeks about.
> > >
> > > But I will say your totally full of shit on your OS comments about
> > > CANNED DRIVES. Microsoft currently has a commission on every hard
> > > drive built today such that, even if you ordered it with NO OS installed,
> > > they get a percentage of the sale of that drive. THUS - their OS is FREE!
> >
> > So my Linux box with three IBM SCSI drives resulted in payments to M$???
> >
> > UGH!!!!
> >
> > Remind me to start purchasing my disk drives on my trips to Russia...
> >
>
> I'm not sure about your IBM drives, but I know for certain
> that when I purchased a second HD for my Epson laptop (it
> has removable drives), to install Linux on it, it came with
> Win95 pre-loaded. I don't believe it was for free.
>
> I wouldn't bet about Russia either. But maybe they *forget*
> to pay MS. In that case you'd be just paying Russian mafia.
> Same stuff, on the end.
The Russian Mafia have higher moral standards than Microsoft.
>
> --
> Giuliano Colla
>
> Before activating the tongue, make sure that the brain is
> connected (anonymous)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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