Linux-Advocacy Digest #557, Volume #28 Tue, 22 Aug 00 11:13:06 EDT
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Re: GNOME/KDE issues (was: Come on, Jedi, where are you?) (Roberto Alsina)
Re: Fragmentation of Linux Community? Yeah, right! (Roberto Alsina)
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNOME/KDE issues (was: Come on, Jedi, where are you?)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:13:56 -0300
"T. Max Devlin" escribi�:
>
> Said Roberto Alsina in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >Matthias Warkus escribi�:
> >>
> >> It was the Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:51:21 GMT...
> >> ...and Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > Like I said in my talk about GNOME at LinuxTag 2000: The peaceful
> >> > > competition between KDE and GNOME is one of the best things that ever
> >> > > happened to the free software community.
> >> > >
> >> > > (No matter how many KDEers try to reason that GNOME is useless and
> >> > > should vanish...)
> >> >
> >> > And no matter how many GNOMEs try to call us crooks and want us to
> >> > go away.
> >>
> >> Whatever the facts are, I've never heard any GNOME head honcho say
> >> that KDE should close down the shop (I'm not talking about the
> >> hundreds of raving loony Slashdotters who think they're cool when they
> >> claim that they "boycott KDE" and want to have the project shut down
> >> or something).
> >
> >Well, you don't have a @kde.org email address, or you would have heard.
> >I still get DAILY about 5 emails insulting me for being a vocal KDE
> >advocate. Ever got that kind of thing from KDE users/developers?
>
> Ever consider whether that might mean something about whether "morals"
> really do come into question? Perhaps I've underestimated the issue.
> If it is truly a moral issue of the abstract "free software" religion,
> the likelihood would be greater that I've been backing the wrong horse.
>
> So just why doesn't KDE work to divorce themselves of QT, and what are
> the advantages of having QT? Why?
I don't think anyone can give you a "KDE opinion". I can give you mine:
I like Qt. I find it nice to code with. I see no reason to change,
except the opinion of others. I may have too strong an ego to care.
--
Roberto Alsina
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From: Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Fragmentation of Linux Community? Yeah, right!
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:16:40 -0300
Ostracus escribi�:
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> In article <8npd61$92c4b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nigel Feltham"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>If enough people get sufficiently crazy and/or stoned to pull that stunt, we
> >>might even see GNOME for Windows or KDE for Windows in two years or three. I
> >>don't think it would be worth the porting effort, except of course for the
> >>healthy effect that this would be a quantum leap for front end / back end
> >>separation and improve the cross-platform characteristics of whichever package
> >>a lot.
> >>
> >
> >
> > This could be possible - both the gtk toolkit used by GNOME and the QT toolkit
> > used for KDE are available for windows (Gimp, the gnome equivalent of
> > photoshop is already available for windows based on the win32 port of gtk so
> > why should the gui be that impossible to port).
> >
> [pulled from TrollTech's page]
>
> 1.What is the Qt Free Edition?
> The Free Edition is the Qt for Unix/X11 library,
> licensed for development of free/Open Source software. It includes the
> complete source code. It is released under the QPL Open Source license.
>
> You may freely use Qt Free Edition for:
>
> Running software legally developed by others
> Developing free/Open Source software Please note that the Qt Free
> Edition is an X11-only library. Qt for Microsoft Windows is only
> available in the Professional Edition.
>
> 2.What is the idea behind the double licensing of Qt?
> The idea is that if you use Qt, you should pay back either by giving your
> software to the free software community
> (the Free Edition), or contribute to the Qt development
> by purchasing licenses from us (the Professional Edition)."
>
> So the fact that QT is available for the windows platform is only useful to
> those who purchase the professional edition. I would bet even money that most of
> the authors of "free" software will not "pony up" the money.
You can port the free edition to win32. It should not be a terribly huge
project. My personal guess is 2 guys two weeks.
> GTK is "free" on both platforms.
So would Qt if someone ported it :-)
--
Roberto Alsina
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