Linux-Advocacy Digest #189, Volume #29 Mon, 18 Sep 00 18:13:06 EDT
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Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools) ("Joseph T. Adams")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:44:19 -0400
WickedDyno wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Jason Bowen wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Jason Bowen wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Bob Germer wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On 09/18/2000 at 05:54 AM,
> > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > See your showing your bias. Have I mentioned the ozone hole
> > > >> > > once? You
> > > >> > > mentioned Copernicus being persecuted and yet you'd do the same
> > > >> > > for
> > > >> > > people looking for answers as to what is happening with out
> > > >> > > world
> > > >> > > today.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ah, but Copernicus PROVED his theory by verifiable, repeatable
> > > >> > measurements which eliminated all other possibilities. Einstein's
> > > >> > theories
> > > >> > have been proven by repeatable experiments which preclude any
> > > >> > alternate
> > > >> > possibilities.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > But until the econuts PROVE their theories about CFC's, they are
> > > >> > junk
> > > >> > scientists and not to be trusted. And until the theories are
> > > >> > PROVEN, I
> > > >> > refuse to sanction actions based thereupon.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Oh man this is rich. So unitl it is verifiable you will call it a
> > > >> lie and not support looking
> > > >> into it? You would've been right their lynching Copernicus. What
> > > >> an asshole.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >What is the concentration of CFC's in the upper atmosphere, oh
> > > >ignorant
> > > >freshman.
> > >
> > > Last reading I saw was 3.6ppb billion, already referenced it.
> > > Plantlife
> >
> > In other words...negligible.
>
> Because you say so?
3.6 ppb = 0.00036 %
Please explain how a 0.00036% concentration of CFC's is going to
wipe out a >1% concentration of O3
>
> --
> | Andrew Glasgow <amg39(at)cornell.edu> |
> | SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical |
> | reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat |
> | to your SCSI chain now and then. -- John Woods |
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:46:04 -0400
Ian Davey wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Britain recently outlawed handguns. Murder rates have tripled since.
>
> Where on Earth did you get that statistic? I live in the UK and have certainly
> never heard that. They regularly give the crime statistics on the news, and
> there's been no tripling of murder rates. Spreading more gun lobby propaganda
> again?
Obviously, you don't have the latest figures
Home invasions are up
Home invasions with assualt on the occupants are up.
Burglaries are up.
Disarming the populace of the UK has made everyone easy pickings
for the ne'er-do-wells within the populace.
>
> ian.
>
> \ /
> (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature)
> /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art)
> | |
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:47:20 -0400
Jason Bowen wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I only RESPOND to hostility WITH hostility.
>
> A lie. You and Bob started the cussing in name calling in our thread.
Do you have a Certified Proof of Title for "your thread"?
If not, then it's not "your thread".
> If you can prove that I started the hostility with you feel free to prove it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:47:48 -0400
Jason Bowen wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I only RESPOND to hostility WITH hostility.
>
> A lie. You and Bob started the cussing in name calling in our thread. If
> you can prove that I started the hostility with you feel free to prove it.
By the way...asshole....*I* am the one who wstarted the thread..
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:48:40 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Lets play 'Spot the Fruitcake!'
>
^
/ | \
|
|
Look! There's one now...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:49:28 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron forgot the tinfoil lining for his cap again!
>
You misspelled "the eco-nut propagandists"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:50:03 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> What school was it you said you didn't go to?
I went to Purdue....where I was VERY well educated.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
their behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools)
Date: 18 Sep 2000 22:09:39 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in part:
: The Earth is a system of balances. If one thing gets out of whack,
: 10 other things compensate to restore the balance.
This is true of market economies also.
The problem is that it can take a really long time (from our
perspective at least) for the damage to be corrected.
: This has been happening over billions of years. Many more catastrophic
: things have happened to the ecosystem that Humans could ever cook up
: and the ecosystem restored itself in a geological second. The amount
: of data we, as humans, have collected scientifically over the past
: 1-200 years is nothing. It's not even a nano-second in geological
: terms. To conclude or attempt to draw anything from these statistics
: is meaningless and absurd to say the least.
We've collected substantial evidence of the earth's geological
history.
The catastrophes of earlier geological ages did not destroy the earth,
nor will our activities, but they *did* change the climate in ways
that would have been horribly destructive to human civilization had it
existed at the time. The fear is that our far smaller, but still
potentially significant, activities might similarly cause destruction
to human (and other) habitats in the relatively near future.
I'm not convinced that it will. I'm convinced that it might, though,
and that the chance that it might is sufficient reason for us to
continue to study and to evaluate our activities to make sure that we
aren't creating any potentially avoidable problems.
: Dinosaur populations excreted more methane and CO/2 than humans
: could ever hope to generate.
Yep. But most of the sites of today's cities were under water then.
Later, most of today's lakes and straits and mountains were under
thousands of feet of ice. Neither of those outcomes would be
particularly desirable today.
: It's rather arrogant and self-important
: to think that humans are so powerful that we could permanently change
: or destroy the ecosystem and have it stay permanently dead.
I don't think anyone is alleging that we could permanently destroy the
Earth. Only that our activities, if continued unchecked, could alter
climate substantially enough, and for long enough, to have a
detrimental impact on human and other habitats.
: We will
: kill ourselves with war or accidentally releasing a deadly virus
: into the world before we'll ever hope to destroy this planet.
Very possible. We've come damn close, more than once. Closer than
most people are willing to believe.
: Granted, we shouldn't try, I agree we need to control ourselves
That's all I'm saying. It's all that responsible environmentalists
are saying too. (There are a lot of very *irresponsible* folks
pretending to be environmentalists that are saying a lot more.
Mostly, those are folks with political agendas, usually of a leftist
variety, who *use* well-meaning but naive environmental activists to
promote that agenda.)
, but
: this world has been through huge floods, all sorts of geological
: disasters (giant earthquakes, massive volcanoes spewing millions of
: tons of CO/2, methane, and all other sorts of noxious gasses into
: the atmosphere) and look where we are today, paradise.
We have an environment that is in many respects better than it ever
has been (more free from infectious disease, for example).
The challenge is keeping it that way.
And in spite of the progress we've made, there still are serious
problems such as air pollution in large cities, both air and water
pollution behind the former Iron Curtain, rapid deforestation in
certain areas (mostly South America and Latin America), and, to be
blunt, unsustainable development in certain parts of the world where
there simply is not enough guaranteed fresh water to sustain life.
(The wealthy oil states of the Middle East, and the urban areas of the
southwestern U.S., are prime examples of this).
Preventable diseases still kill tens of millions in the poorest
countries. Wars and famines caused mostly by statist political
ideologies claim many more.
We're doing better than we did in the past in many ways, but there is
still much work left to be done.
As a libertarian I hope it can be done the way it should be, namely,
by voluntary cooperation and consent.
But it does need to be done.
I don't know if global warming is something we can control, or should
attempt to. But I certainly would like to know. And I certainly
suggest caution in the meantime.
: We're do for
: another ice age here in about 25-50,000 years or so, we're probably
: just seeing the cycle repeat itself and seeing the ecosystem building
: up and building up for the next ice age when it'll all start over
: again and the same thing will happen 100,000 years after that like
: it's done for the past several million years.
Probably.
But in the meantime I'd like those who will come after me to be able
to enjoy the same, or better, environmental AND economic conditions
that we have today.
To ensure this, we must avoid both extremes. We must not destroy
people's livelihoods in a vain attempt to meet arbitrary or
unrealistic goals that might not be necessary or even worthwhile. At
the same time, we must not ignore the mounting evidence that warming
*is* occurring, that human activities *may* be contributing to it, and
that the costs for dealing with it *will* be staggering.
: Humanity is not even a blink of an eye in the Earth's history and
: it's not about to be destroyed by us.
Unlike some of my more left-leaning peers, I'm not concerned about the
destruction of Earth, so much as I am about the destruction of human
(and other) life on it.
Joe
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