Linux-Advocacy Digest #186, Volume #30 Sun, 12 Nov 00 03:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux 2.4 mired in delays as Compaq warns of lack of momentum ("Chad Myers")
Re: The Sixth Sense ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux growth rate explosion! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Is Lame. Sorry but it is true ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Is Lame. Sorry but it is true ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NT/2000 true multiuser? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why don't I use Linux? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 mired in delays as Compaq warns of lack of momentum
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:50:54 GMT
"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:40:36 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> |
> |"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> |news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> |> On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 05:07:41 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> |wrote:
> |> |
>
>
> |> |
> |> |When you create a tablespace in Oracle, is not the syntax:
> |> |
> |> |CREATE TABLESPACE <tablespace name>
> |> |DATAFILE '<path to data file>'....
> |> |
> |> |What, exactly is the "datafile" if not a file, then?
> |>
> |>
> |> And when that file is almost full, you add more tablespace by
> |> telling Oracle about *another* *differnet* *file* that it can use.
> |>
> |> At that point, the "datafile" consists of 2 OS files.
> |>
> |> Repeat as necessary.
> |
> |Hmmm... not the way I do it. I use Autoextend and make sure
> |that:
> |a.) the db file is large enough to make autoextending rare
> |b.) make the autoextend size large enough that it will prevent
> | frequent extending
>
>
> We have only needed to do this once. The initial size estimates were
> a bit low ;)
>
>
> <script snipped>
>
>
> |(and then I'd create the index, but you get the point)
> |
> |Wouldn't having two files slow down performance?
> |
> |But then, I guess, if you're using Oracle on Linux,
> |performance obviously isn't a concern.
>
>
> Actually, this is running under Solaris on SPARC hardware.
>
>
> |Especially if you were planning on having an 80GB db which
> |would result in 40 db files at 2GB a piece!
> |
> |> Sorry I can't remember the exact commands involved. I did peer
> |> over our DBA's shoulder while he did this once, but my notes
> |> are at the office.
> |
> |I know what you're talking about, and I believe you, but that's
> |not the optimal way to do things, it's more of a hack to get
> |around the completely worthless Ext2 filesystem.
>
>
> Well, this case is on Veritas vxfs, so that's not a concern.
>
> You keep saying this about ext2. Do you have any specific problems
> in mind, or do you just dislike it on principle? Pointers to independent
> reviews/tests/etc wuld be nice.
Had you been following the thread, you would've seen several claims
that ext2 is good for this, good for that, etc. I'm merely pointing
out ext2's weakness, or rather shortcomings:
- No journaling
- No support for >2GB files (patch exists but isn't widely supported)
- Poor reliability (mainly do to, among other things, lack of journaling)
- Poor performance
- No support for DAC
- Shall I keep going?
-Chad
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Sixth Sense
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:40:35 -0500
PLZI wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> <delurk>
>
> > Why does Microsoft need 3rd party software for full remote administration?
> > Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?
>
> Please define "full remote administration"? On Terminal Server Client, you
> get the server console. TSC is a part of W2K server. You get two concurrent
> licenses.
Two concurrent licenses?
THAT'S IT?
In unix, I can have remote xterms logged into the administration account
on 15 machines simultaneously...and 14 other admins ALSO remote logged
into each of these 15 machines...
And not one red cent in licensing fees.
In fact, you can even do it from an Amiga...or a windows box...or even
an IBM mainframe.
NO extra costs needed.
> So, if I see the server console before me, what am I missing from
> "full remote administration"?
See above.
>
> And of course, the answer to your question is: There is no "why". It does not
> need it.
Sure. Computer's don't need administration?
You've been smokin' some pretty hard crack, haven't you?
> Yes, there are remote admin software packages available for W2K. For
> example, TSC does not have inbuilt scripting language of it's own (like for
> example the NetSupport has), but this is besides the point- TSC is an
Really?
Not having an inbuilt scripting language is "beside the point"
Evidently, you'd prefer to do the same repetitive series of
point-click-point-click-point-click.....
45 times over...rather than write a short script that does the same operation
45 times for you.
In other words...if you believe the lack of scripting language is
NOT a deficiency...than you're a Shit-for-brains, First Class
> automation object, and the features (say, connecting to 20 servers one by one
> and retrieving some data through the remote admin package, automatically) may
> be implemented through WSH, VBA, VB, C++, take your pick. Of course there are
> fundamentally different ways of tackling this given problem, ftp, any c/s
> software of your own, webdav... but this is besides the point.
>
> > What the fuck is wrong with Microsoft that they can't figure out
> > how to do this?
>
> Of course, you have never even seen or used the TSC/W2K. By the way, does
And glad of it. Everything you've described demonstrates that it
STILL isn't ready for prime time.
> your favourite *nix have one, shared, consistent clipboard?
Who cares? Clipboards are for weenies.
> Across the remote
> and local machine?
I routinele sit in my office, and cut-and-paste information from a machines in
Virginia to a machine in California...and vice versa.
> Can you select a file, picture (say, from your web
> browser) or text from you remote desk, and copy/paste it into the local
> machine? Or vice versa?
For anything that I do administratively...yep.
Of course....distributing pictures to a large number of machines is best
done by scripting, not cut and paste.
This is why Windows is still playing catchup to the rest of the industry.
>
> - PLZI
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux growth rate explosion!
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:49:46 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Andrew Suprun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8MmO5.20966$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ayende Rahien) wrote in
> > <8ubtp8$9cd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >> Microsoft: "MSDE doesn't limit the number of users who can connect to
> > >> its database, but it is optimized for five users. For a larger numbers
> > >> of users, you should use SQL Server 7.0."
> > >
> > >Not so.
> > >It's installed optimized for 5 users, there is nothing to prevent you
> > >from re-optimzing it to much larger numbers of users.
> >
> > MS Access is open sourced already?
>
> Contrary to popular Linux belief, not everyone is a C programmer.
>
And the point of you're repeating this old bromide is??????
clue for the fucking clueless
it doesn't matter if *you* personally know C or not...
as long as a large group of people who *do* can review it,
and you are able to hear/read their evaluation.
> I'm sure it also comes to your suprise that there are actually quality
> applications out there that don't require re-coding and recompiling just
> to make it run better or to customize it. It also doesn't require the
> editing of lengthy text files designed by sophmoric developers.
>
> It's all right there, it's easy, it's quick and it's reliable, something
> I'm sure you Linux folks have no clue about.
>
> -Chad
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Is Lame. Sorry but it is true
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:55:46 -0500
Les Mikesell wrote:
>
> "chrisv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >Is this crap being machine generated now? The plot never changes, its
> > >like a travelling roadshow of a horrendous off-Broadway flop.
> >
> > That's because this same kind of thing has happened to so many of us.
> > Get it?
>
> Us? Do you have multiple personalities too? How many of you are
> there?
Inquiring psychologists want to know!
>
> Les Mikesell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Is Lame. Sorry but it is true
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:56:28 -0500
mlw wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> skills is nil.
> > > >
> > > > Go up to Chicago, and basic Unix admin skills are worth about $20/hour
> > > > at the very least.
> > >
> > > Come to the Boston area, a good UNIX guy can get $150 an hour. $450 an
> > > hour if you are an Oracle guru too.
> > >
> >
> > That's because the cost of living is so high, that even a subsistance-level
> > income puts you in the 28% tax bracket.
> >
>
> Boston is very expensive, but just south of Boston, a couple miles,
> prices are much more reasonable. Public transportation is available too.
> It sure beats silicon valley.
That's why I stay away from there, too.
>
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Aaron R. Kulkis - Who is this guy?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 02:58:11 -0500
A transfinite number of monkeys wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:23:20 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Also 20 credit hours of calculus
>
> 20 hours of calculus, eh? Wow, I've only got a BA in Mathematics, so take
> my results with a grain of salt. If you want to talk just calculus, I had
> 12 hours. Calculus I through IV, 4 semesters of class-time. Now, if you
> count 2 semesters of Real Analysis and a semester of Complex Analysis, as
> being "calculus", then I've got 21. I wouldn't count the Analysis stuff
My mistake
15 credit hours of calculus.
5 credit hours of differential equations
(best summed up as calculus by ESP)
> as calculus, however. Most of the material is the same as what you cover
> in calculus, except rather than accepting all of those things the instructor
> told you are "just true, and given facts", you prove them. You prove things
> like the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra, and other fun facts.
>
> : Aaron R. Kulkis
> : Unix Systems Engineer
> :
> : [alt.fan.warlord candidate clipped]
>
> --
> Jason Costomiris <>< | Technologist, geek, human.
> jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org | http://www.jasons.org/
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NT/2000 true multiuser?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 03:00:00 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Is Windows NT/2000 a true multiuser environment?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > > My impression is that it is not. Comments?
> >
> > Claims that any Microsoft product is multi-user are pure fictions
> > invented by M$'s marketing department.
>
> That would be like your statement here. It should be quite easy to prove
> your statement. What multiuser features are missing?
Two or more simultaneous users,, each with their own PRIVATE data space,
both in memory, and on disk, each user having their own UNIQUE user
id, which is persistent from login to login.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why don't I use Linux?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 03:01:17 -0500
Jim Richardson wrote:
>
> On 6 Nov 2000 17:28:02 GMT,
> Andres Soolo, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
> >Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> grep. I believe grep stands for 'Global Regular Expression Program'
> >I thought it was for g/re/p , the corresponding command in ed.
> >
>
> I allways heard it as Grab a REgular expression and Print
Global/regular expression/print
>
> >--
> >Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Lackland's Laws:
> > 1. Never be first.
> > 2. Never be last.
> > 3. Never volunteer for anything.
>
> 4. If someone volunteers you, look confused.
>
> --
> Jim Richardson
> Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
> Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
http://directedfire.com/greatgungiveaway/directedfire.referrer.fcgi?2632
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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