Linux-Advocacy Digest #340, Volume #30 Tue, 21 Nov 00 08:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: New to Linux, and I am not satisfied. (kiwiunixman)
Re: New to Linux, and I am not satisfied. ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: New to Linux, and I am not satisfied. (kiwiunixman)
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (Mike J Tietel)
Re: The Non Sense: people who are clueless about the WindowsNT registry... (was Re:
The Sixth Sense) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Small Distro? (Edward Rosten)
Re: 10th grader com sci homework request (Nick Ruisi)
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? (Giuliano Colla)
Re: OT: Could someone explain C++ phobia in Linux? (mlw)
Re: Linux trips over itself once again (Marc Richter)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 10th grader com sci homework request (Ketil Z Malde)
Re: Small Distro? ("Adam Warner")
Re: Uptime -- where is NT? (Giuliano Colla)
Re: OT: Could someone explain C++ phobia in Linux? (Ketil Z Malde)
Re: Small Distro? ("Adam Warner")
Re: New to Linux, and I am not satisfied. (Stephen Cornell)
Re: The Non Sense: people who are clueless about the WindowsNT (Giuliano Colla)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Giuliano Colla)
Deja Domination ("Bradley J. Milton")
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux, and I am not satisfied.
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:10:59 +1300
If claire is going to be a bitch........lets play hardball!
Gary Hallock wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> The difference is, if you said it I would believe you just as I
>> believe most of what the Linvocates say about their own Windows
>> horrors. I have been down those same roads many times myself and am
>> not in denial about it. I tell it like it is, and in this case it
>> doesn't work like it should with the distribution I was running on the
>> machine I was running.
>>
>
> Well, I have said it and it is true. You on the other hand have absolutely no
> credibility. You constantly complain about Linux, posting hundreds of
> messages here. Never once do you go ask for help in one of the Linux
> newsgroups. You say you had trouble installing Mandrake 7.2 on your
> Thinkpad. Did you ask for help in alt.os.linux.mandrake? No. The only post
> from you is this:
>
>> Welcome to Linux!
>
>> The only operating system that you have to build yourself as you go along.
>> I'll bet you didn't have all this trouble under Windows?
>
>> claire
>
>
> You can't just stay in c.o.l.a and harass people. You have to go the
> newsgroups where people are trying to get help and harass them there also.
> What an asshole!
>
> Gary
>
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux, and I am not satisfied.
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 04:16:02 -0600
"Jacques Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If you'd done any work on a Unix box, you'd know. Click at the beginning
> of the text you want to copy, drag to the end (DO NOT click there!),
> go to where you want to paste the text, click the middle button. Voila.
> If you have only a two-button mouse, click both buttons at once.
This annoys me. One of my most common paste operations is to copy some
text, highlight some other text and paste, deleting the text in the second
document and replacing it with the pasted text. Can't do that.
It also seems that you can't have highlighted text in more than one
document.
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux, and I am not satisfied.
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:14:48 +1300
This is not a real person, if it was she/he would have actually
participated in this discussion, and yes, yet a again this is another
one of Claires hypothetical stories about some hypothetical dim witt. I
donot hear any violin's in E Minor.....because I know that this post is
bull shyte.
kiwiunixman
Dan Hinojosa wrote:
> I really want to get into this so I don't want to down it. I am a java
> programmer, and was told that this is going to be a blessed reunion
> between Linux and Java. I am running Caldera on a Dell Latitude PIII
> 750 with 256MB RAM. Caldera came with KDE. One of my biggest
> complaints is that I cannot copy and paste between applications, this
> just has to be written in some Magna Carta somewhere! Is there another
> desktop that abides by certain unalienable rights like copy and paste?
> Also is there a place where there is a large collection of PCMCIA card
> drivers?
>
> Thanks you crazy bunch of penguins.
>
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:52:29 GMT
Giuliano Colla writes:
>> sfcybear writes:
>>> That still leaves the FACT that NT uptime clocks are only acurate for
>>> 49.7 days while Unix clocks are 10 times more acurate than that.
>>> remaining accurate for 497 days.
>> You're confusing range with accuracy. Both clocks could be equally
>> accurate. Range usually comes at the expense of precision. That is,
>> the same number of bits can provide a greater range if the precision
>> is reduced.
> Maybe the terms he used aren't exact.
You're not sure?
> But if someone comes to your home to measure the floor in order to
> deliver you the wall to wall carpet,
That's a matter of fitting some material into a space. Rather different
from an uptime measurement, which is open-ended.
> and does it with a micrometric gauge, providing .1 mil accuracy, but
> spanning only 3 inches, you'd call him an idiot, wouldn't you?
He isn't the one who chose the poor analogy.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:54:49 GMT
sfcybear writes:
>>> That still leaves the FACT that NT uptime clocks are only acurate
>>> for 49.7 days while Unix clocks are 10 times more acurate than that.
>>> remaining accurate for 497 days.
>> You're confusing range with accuracy. Both clocks could be equally
>> accurate. Range usually comes at the expense of precision. That is,
>> the same number of bits can provide a greater range if the precision
>> is reduced.
> So? Does it change anything?
Yes. It changes your claim that it's a "fact" than UNIX clocks are
10 times more accurate than that.
> NT uptime clock croaks at 49 days
Irrelevant, given that the issue I was addressing was the one of
the alleged "10 times more accurate".
> even with your word games.
What alleged word games?
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:55:58 GMT
Marty writes:
>> sfcybear writes:
>>> That still leaves the FACT that NT uptime clocks are only acurate for
>>> 49.7 days while Unix clocks are 10 times more acurate than that.
>>> remaining accurate for 497 days.
>> You're confusing range with accuracy. Both clocks could be equally
>> accurate. Range usually comes at the expense of precision. That is,
>> the same number of bits can provide a greater range if the precision
>> is reduced.
> Is it "accurate" to report that a system has been up for 0 days when it
> has, in fact, been up for 49.7 days?
How does that prove that UNIX clocks are 10 times more accurate, Marty?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike J Tietel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Date: 15 Nov 2000 16:31:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> look at Windows' API. Don't tell me the Motif or GTk APIs could be any worse
> than the Windows API and/or MFC. You have to wonder how Windows programmers
> can stand working with that.
>
They don't have a choice and haven't used anything else so they don't know
that it needn't be that way...
--
mjt at adc dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Non Sense: people who are clueless about the WindowsNT registry...
(was Re: The Sixth Sense)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:37:06 GMT
On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:44:57 GMT, Giuliano Colla
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I strongly doubt about that. If indexing or hashing is used,
>while REGEDIT (for a Key search) doesn't use it, and offers
>you the classical textual search (search up, or search
>down)? There's no up and down in a hash table!
>
Almost every GUI interface to a database offers the option to search
up or down. These databases invariable allow indexing of fields.
The option to search up or down is simply a mechanism to allow a user
to search for multiple occurrences of the same text or text matching a
given pattern. This in no way negates the use of an index or hash
table.
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From: Edward Rosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small Distro?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:41:08 +0000
mitch wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is in an FAQ somewhere, but is there a small, stable,
> fully functioning (ie. PPP, X, etc ) available anywhere suitable for
> downloading via a 56k modem? (ie. Less than, say, 40Mb. )
>
> It`s not just the download issue, but the footprint on my harddrive,
> as I`ll only be giving it a 400Mb partition, or so.
>
> Thanks for any pointer,
I've found monkey linux a good option. It's quite an old distro, so it
is very small.
It comes with netscape3, X, sendmail, pine, etc on about 5 floppies.
http://www.spsselib.hiedu.cz/monkey/docs/english.htm
-Ed
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold | Edward
Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? | u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies | @
| eng.ox.ac.uk
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From: Nick Ruisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: 10th grader com sci homework request
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:04:47 -0500
When comparing OS's (today) to Windows, do you need to make a
distinction between BSD and Mac OS? While thinking along those lines,
why make a distinction between the BSD's and Linux's... doesn't
linux/minix fork from BSD somewhere back in the early 90's/late 80's?
The real comparison that should be made is between MS-OS's and UNIX's
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:19:08 GMT
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > It's the same bug. The only difference is that the Linux clock is less
> > > precise.
> > >
> > > I can't believe you're gloating over an issue that is essentially
> identical
> > > between both platforms.
> >
> > If someone sells you a hot dog for $5 and another for $50 you'd say that
> > the price is essentially identical?
>
> I didn't say that. I said the problem is identical, even if the results are
> different.
>
> If the hot dog were really $ .50, then it's the same problem whether they
> charge you $5 or $50.
That's exactly where I disagree. Charging $5 a $ .50 hot dog means
overcharging 1,000% which is high.
Charging it $50 means overcharging 10,000% which is ridiculous. One
order of magnitude makes a difference.
Having set an upper limit for time measurement of the order of 1 year
and a half means that you expect the system do be shut down once a year
for maintenance, which may be reasonable, in a DP environment. Mostly
thinking at the time Unix was designed
Having set an upper limit of the order of one month and a half means
believing that the system isn't expected to run continuosly for more
than one month, which may be even be optimistic (as far as NT is
concerned) but it's not what you'd expect from a professional server. NT
design is almost 30 years "younger" than unix.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Could someone explain C++ phobia in Linux?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 07:21:05 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Russ Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > That's because you don't know what you're doing.
> > >
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q156/5/13.asp
>
> > I won't tell that to my customer because I don't want him to take his
> > millions and go home. Everything that is part of a build gets checked in
> > and controlled. MS may think that there is no need to put the
> > autogenerated files under source control, but they aren't paying me to
> > develop software. We even have to save the compiler used to make the
> > build!
>
> You're a moron then. Do you save the temp files generated by the compiler
> in the Temp directory as well?
The project files generated by VC and code are dependent on environment
settings in a system. They are important.
>That's what these are. Hell, the temp files
> are even more relavant than the ones listed in the knowledge base article
> because the temp files are actually generated code,
Many companies that have to be able to reproduce and "audit" code
production do save the object files.
> while the the
> autogenerated files are things to do with Intellisense and the class
> browser.
>
> In other words, they have nothing to do with either the code generated, or
> the source code in any way. They're to do with the IDE as temp files.
In many projects, one has to use a properly version controlled compiler,
library set, installer, etc. They have to save everything that is used
to create the code which is shipped. In things like banking, there is
often an audit process with each new version of software and
differences, no matter how minor, must be accounted for. Sometimes your
customer even wants to inspect the build process.
You MUST be able to take a fresh machine, and build the code from what
is in version control, and get the same executable. (The differences,
like date and time stamps, etc. MUST able to be explained!)
I have my differences with Russ, but I know what he is talking about
when he says this kind of stuff. People change compilers mid project
under Windows, but this is hardly the case in large non-windows
projects. In Old CS classes many years ago, the professors took a dim
view of changing compilers mis stream, because you could never know what
bugs were fixed and what bugs were new, and how much code would function
differently.
--
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Richter)
Subject: Re: Linux trips over itself once again
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:29:18 -0500
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:44:04 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:51:34 -0800, "Operator Jack"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>Um. No .. you are doing something wrong. I was actually going to go
>>through the setup in a message here.. but you are kinda jerky.. suffice it
>>to say, if you RTFM that talks about COMMANDLINE options, you'll get it.
>
>
>
>Why does SuSE 6.4 install fine?
Hmmmm.
So SuSE installs fine.
So maybe the problem is your system and Mandrake together...
I had a Deskpro that absolutely vomited on the Redhat 6.0 install
but Slackware 7.1 slid on just fine.
What is it you want Claire? Really...what do you want from Linux?
Do you want to use Linux for real or just keep installing it over and over
again because it gives you some thrill because it's not Windows
and therefore you can make your smart-ass little comments about
it whenever it trips you up? :-)
I've said it before -- maybe you should just stick with Windows.
Doesn't seem like you've got much of a stomach for the tinkering.
Which is fine. But if you're coming back to just keep complaining,
it's just pissing a lot of people off.
Or amusing them...I certainly chuckle every once and a while.
>
>Next...
>
Yep. I'll certainly be holding my breath to see what you can come
up with next. Shouldn't take you too long. :-)
Hey, how's the kid's iMac holding up? I've dropped a few of them on
some of the scientists desks...they're running some Mac only software.
So far, I've been pleased with them.
>claire
>
Regards,
--
Marc A. Richter I&R Deployed Support
The contents of this message express only the sender's opinion.
This message does not necessarily reflect the policy or views of
my employer, Merck & Co., Inc. All responsibility for the statements
made in this Usenet posting resides solely and completely with the
sender.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:15:35 GMT
Chris,
The only reason why Xfce could cause X to lock is when you start a
console based program from the panel. You should add "term" in front of
your command to start a terminal to run your application.
Recent version of Xfce (ie version > 3.5.1, latest being 3.6.1) feature
a workarround for that problem (that is also present in other guis since
not specific to Xfce).
In any case the reboot was not necessary, pressing ctl+alt+backspace
would have killed the X server and returns to the console.
It proves that MS-Windows has succeeded in something, at least : People
think that all OS are as weak as MS-Windows (all flavors, NT included),
I mean, an application (X in this case) that crashes not necessarily
means the whole computer needs to be restarted.
Sad... I NEVER have to restart my Linux box, not even X or Xfce.
Cheers,
Olivier.
In article <8tphll$moa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Chris Applegate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a GUI available for Linux. I was running it (XFree86 4.0.1
and
> xfce, in my case) just the other night. It crashed and locked up the
whole
> computer. I had to reboot.
>
> CDA
>
> "MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8tp5lh$i43$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > At least he has a GUI. Don't you?
> > Oh wait, you aren't running windows or mac or os2 or beos.
> > You're running linux.
> > Sorry.
> > Never mind.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: 10th grader com sci homework request
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:37:59 GMT
Nick Ruisi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When comparing OS's (today) to Windows, do you need to make a
> distinction between BSD and Mac OS?
Why not? They are entirely different things, up to MacOS X, and even
then, the OS is quite different to the user, as I understand it.
> why make a distinction between the BSD's and Linux's...
Technically, they aren't all that different, of course.
Historically, BSD is a different branch of the Unix tree from
way-back-when. Politically, there are differences - small to the
outside observer, quite significant to the involved.
Economically, they have had quite a different impact on commercial
entities, BSD has been absorbed into commercial software, while Linux
has led to IPO fever and new companies that actually write open source
software.
-kzm
--
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small Distro?
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:38:25 +1200
Hi Mitch,
> Sorry if this is in an FAQ somewhere, but is there a small, stable,
> fully functioning (ie. PPP, X, etc ) available anywhere suitable for
> downloading via a 56k modem? (ie. Less than, say, 40Mb. )
You might want to give Debian a go (www.debian.org). Download the base
floppy disk images (which will give you a bare bones system) and then once
that's installed use the packet management system (apt-get) to download the
components you need (e.g. X). The latest version has only been recently
released so it's very current.
You would probably find Redhat easier, but you'd first need to grap a CD off
someone. I don't think there's any easy way to install Redhat from a smaller
download (and I bet Redhat likes it that way).
Regards,
Adam
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Uptime -- where is NT?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:40:19 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Giuliano Colla writes:
>
> >> sfcybear writes:
>
> >>> That still leaves the FACT that NT uptime clocks are only acurate for
> >>> 49.7 days while Unix clocks are 10 times more acurate than that.
> >>> remaining accurate for 497 days.
>
> >> You're confusing range with accuracy. Both clocks could be equally
> >> accurate. Range usually comes at the expense of precision. That is,
> >> the same number of bits can provide a greater range if the precision
> >> is reduced.
>
> > Maybe the terms he used aren't exact.
>
> You're not sure?
>
It depends wether you're speaking of clock accuracy (which is a hardware
issue, not OS related, and therefore off topic), or of uptime estimate
accuracy.
Whenever uptime estimate is completely wrong you may well say that
accuracy of the measured value is not so good, even if clock accuracy
comes from a caesium primary. In that case with Unix you have an
accurate measurements for a time 10 times longer than with NT.
> > But if someone comes to your home to measure the floor in order to
> > deliver you the wall to wall carpet,
>
> That's a matter of fitting some material into a space. Rather different
> from an uptime measurement, which is open-ended.
That's an abstract notion. Any value may be open ended. Writing a
program you must decide what will be your upper limit, and reserve space
accordingly. If your decision is wrong, then you've made a silly
mistake.
>
> > and does it with a micrometric gauge, providing .1 mil accuracy, but
> > spanning only 3 inches, you'd call him an idiot, wouldn't you?
>
> He isn't the one who chose the poor analogy.
Maybe you don't grasp it, but if you select a word size and a time
resolution, you set your upper limit. If the choice is poor you end up
exactly like that. Using milliseconds to measure uptime isn't much
smarter than using a gauge to measure a floor. If you think differently
I'll address elsewhere whenever in need a) to measure my floor, b) to
measure uptime.
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Subject: Re: OT: Could someone explain C++ phobia in Linux?
From: Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:40:31 GMT
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> You MUST be able to take a fresh machine, and build the code from what
> is in version control, and get the same executable. (The differences,
> like date and time stamps, etc. MUST able to be explained!)
A suggestion?
Use VMWare, and save the whole NT installation along with your source
tree. When you need to rebuild, simply boot up that installation, and
compile.
-kzm
--
If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of giants
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Small Distro?
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 01:41:25 +1200
> that's installed use the packet management system (apt-get) to download
the
Before anyone jumps on me--yes there is also the dselect interface.
Adam
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From: Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Linux, and I am not satisfied.
Date: 21 Nov 2000 12:46:38 +0000
"Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This annoys me. One of my most common paste operations is to copy some
> text, highlight some other text and paste, deleting the text in the second
> document and replacing it with the pasted text. Can't do that.
Rather a contorted way of doing things, don't you think? Surely the
intuitive way of doing things is to delete the text you don't want, go
find the text you do, and then paste it in? Or, paste in the text you
do want, then select and delete the text you don't? This idea of
exchanging bits of text requires a rather higher level of abstraction,
and appears somewhat prone to errors.
Besides, xclipboard (and, more recently, KDE2's Klipper) allows you to
reuse any previously selected object at will, in any application.
Emacs users have known how to access all previously cut bits of text
for a long time.
--
Stephen Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel/fax +44-1223-336644
University of Cambridge, Zoology Department, Downing Street, CAMBRIDGE CB2 3EJ
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The Non Sense: people who are clueless about the WindowsNT
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:47:09 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:44:57 GMT, Giuliano Colla
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >I strongly doubt about that. If indexing or hashing is used,
> >while REGEDIT (for a Key search) doesn't use it, and offers
> >you the classical textual search (search up, or search
> >down)? There's no up and down in a hash table!
> >
>
> Almost every GUI interface to a database offers the option to search
> up or down. These databases invariable allow indexing of fields.
>
> The option to search up or down is simply a mechanism to allow a user
> to search for multiple occurrences of the same text or text matching a
> given pattern. This in no way negates the use of an index or hash
> table.
If you care to give a look to the API's used for registry queries,
you'll think otherwise. On the most optimistic case you'd need a huge
tree of hash tables or index tables. It would be so cumbersome that I
doubt it would be more efficient than straight textual search.
Whenever you look into MS implementation you have the feeling of
amateurish, incompetent design. Registry is but one more case.
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:56:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> The only reason why Xfce could cause X to lock is when you start a
> console based program from the panel. You should add "term" in front of
> your command to start a terminal to run your application.
>
> Recent version of Xfce (ie version > 3.5.1, latest being 3.6.1) feature
> a workarround for that problem (that is also present in other guis since
> not specific to Xfce).
>
> In any case the reboot was not necessary, pressing ctl+alt+backspace
> would have killed the X server and returns to the console.
>
> It proves that MS-Windows has succeeded in something, at least : People
> think that all OS are as weak as MS-Windows (all flavors, NT included),
> I mean, an application (X in this case) that crashes not necessarily
> means the whole computer needs to be restarted.
>
> Sad... I NEVER have to restart my Linux box, not even X or Xfce.
>
Apparently you're better than me. Last year I had to reboot it twice.
First time when I installed alsa sound drivers, and linked the wrong
libraries, getting a kernel panic. Second time when I was testing a
special driver I was developing, and I had put an endless loop in the
interrupt handler! ;-)
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Crossposted-To: alt.fan.dejanews,news.newusers.questions
From: "Bradley J. Milton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Deja Domination
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:32:22 GMT
I'm trying to find the key to insert lines in here, using the lynx interface
with Deja. Lynx is an older Web browser but important for Linux users. Not
all of the Deja interface works with this - will this affect Business? Can't
find it in the Web docs. Nobody answered in the fan FORUM so I don't know if
its active. A single line is not enough for most thoughts so I don't know why
Deja does this. If the newsgroups now change to FORUMS maybe deja can
register dejaforums.com or Usenetforums.com instead. Will this make a
difference? I am confused. Please help! PS. I tried to post now to the Deja
customer forum and it blew up on me! "Internal System Error" on the official
Deja web site, this is certainly a turn-off to potential investors. Who is
manning the control room in there? -- How to combine Business and
Counter-culture? http://www.angelfire.com/rant/milton/
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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