Linux-Advocacy Digest #340, Volume #32 Tue, 20 Feb 01 01:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: .NET is plain .NUTS (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (John Jensen)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Tim Hanson)
Re: Linux web pads? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Tim Hanson)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .NET is plain .NUTS
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:28:45 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Charlie Ebert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : It is THEIR feeling,,,, well let me just repeat what one of them
> : told me one morning when I questioned buying licenses.
>
> : "MR. EBERT, I bought this copy of Microsoft OFFICE. This CD is mine!
> : This office your standing in is MINE. You are MY employee and this
> : CD is MY PROPERTY. Because this CD is MY property and YOU ARE
> : MY employee you will do with this CD what I TOLD YOU TO DO or
> : you can get out. You don't OWN this place. If you don't LIKE IT
> : HERE you can just pack your bags and GET OUT. Now install this
> : CD across the computers I told you to install them on as I TOLD you
> : to do and do it NOW!"
>
> : And all I was trying to do was to highlight the possibility of his
> : being thrown into legal difficulties by fulfilling this ORDER.
> : I wasn't trying to TELL HIM what to do.
>
> What an idiot boss. What you do is follow that order, and in a future
> arse-chewing, you could always say "If you fire me or continue screaming, I
> will call the BSA on you". Then, as he fires you, go to the nearest payphone
> and financially nuke his business with the software stormtroopers doing the
> dirty deed.
>
No...it's better to say
"Look boss...if I do that....do you have any employees who you don't
trust...for any reason?...or any employees who might be pissed at you,
or the company...or *their* supervisor.....or their supervisor's
supervisor?....I'm sure that somewhere...out in the office, there's
at least ONE employee who, if he had a chance to totally fuck over
this business....would do it in a heart beat...leaving not just me
without a job...but have YOU in court against Microsoft's legions of
lawyers, with the end result being you declaring bankruptcy.
Have you seen the ads for the BSA? They're a bunch of snot-nosed
punks who basically play "Vito the Enforcer" for Gates and his
cronies a Microsoft....now...all that....maybe quietly frustrated
employee has to do is call the BSA, and tell them that they should
audit OUR business.
Frankly...we're in a bind....this is ...the NEW Microsoft. Remember
when he said that he doesn't care if people pirated his software,
because eventually, they would get addicted. Well...look, you just
told me to commit a BLATANTLY illegal act...because...lets face it...
you're now one of Billy-the-Pusher's addicts...and guess what...he's
not giving it away for free any more."
"now....you've got two choices. We can continue to use the
pusher's product...and face spiraling prices. .NET will make
sure of that...every machine can be UNIQUELY identified.....the
activation keys, that will be kept in Redmond, not here....will
NOT be sent to a machine unless THAT machine's signature is on
file AND PAID UP.
Now...the other choice is....to convert to something that is not
only cheaper....where WE *CAN* make as many installations as we
want without being dragged into court....but...it works better, too."
"So, tell me...which would you prefer....living in fear that we're
all going to get dragged into court, and lose the business....or
INCREASE the profit margin, and migrate to something that works,
and DOESN'T have any licensing fees...and never will"
> Who needs a gun to go postal with, when every boss is a warez dood? At
> $250K/pop, 100 copies of warez would send that business back to the stone age,
> with a $25M fine! The specter of warez makes every business vunerable to this
> digital method of going postal. Warez is a sword of damaclese over the head of
> every business exec. Large companies are especially vunerable to this attack
> as they will be all but certain to have lots of warez due to if nothing else a
> sloppy techie or a techie planting a "warez bomb" on purpose in case of firing
> to later go postal with.
>
> The .NET thingy will result in economic disruption as nearly every company is
> out of compliance, and suddenly a shitload of money is lost by companies with
> Bill Gates getting it all. Any "warez bombs" will prematurely "explode" as
> .NET is implimented.
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: John Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 20 Feb 2001 05:29:45 GMT
ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: Why are the larger work licensing restrictions needed? As I pointed out,
: the BSD OSes get by just fine without a viral license. People give back
: because they want to or because it benefits them in some way, not
: because the license requires it.
I thought it was the zealots who wanted us to all choose the same license.
Microsoft's most recent comments seem to be that they would prefer to see
<b>government-funded</b> software development head toward the BSD license
rather than the GPL. I'd think the plan would have trouble with
universities who have tried to convert their software into a revenue
stream. Anyway:
Other kinds of open-source license encourage third-party development
but without the same constraints that Smith (and, apparently, Allchin)
find so worrisome. Smith specifically mentioned the BSD license. The
Free Software Foundation specifically calls it compatible with the
GPL, but Smith said its lack of the language noted above makes it
better.
http://weblog.mercurycenter.com/ejournal/2001/02/19
What a wild world it is when Microsoft endorses the BSD license! I
suppose we could read a lot into those tea leaves. Did some secret study
group determine that NT can't outrun open source UNIX?
John
--
33� 38' 49N 117� 56' 33W
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From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:30:52 GMT
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <1ep3cpw.15jor811qwvgrvN@[192.168.0.142]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew J. Brehm) wrote:
>
> > ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > > Please. This is one of the most absurd statements I've ever seen.
> > > It's blatantly false. You can use GPLed code in a project only if
> > > you wish to release that entire project under the GPL. BSD and many
> > > other licenses have no such restriction. GPL is viral. These other
> > > licenses are not.
> >
> > What is the problem with releasing the entire project under the GPL
> > as opposed to releasing it under a BSD license?
>
> Some people don't like the restrictions of GPL.
>
> > > > Nobody has a "right to receive payment for his work".
> > > >
> > > > It depends on whether somebody is willing to pay for it.
> > >
> > > You're being needlessly pedantic. I meant, of course, that an
> > > author has a right to release his work under a license which
> > > requires people who make use of it to pay him.
> >
> > A legal right he has, a moral right I don't know.
>
> I don't see why someone who has invested time/money in creating
> something shouldn't be allowed to sell it at a profit.
No problem. Sell at a profit, but if a person wants to be free of the
restrictions of GPL, he can't use GPL code in his work. It's that
simple.
>
> > > > > Why does Apple do this? Simple self interest. If Apple's
> > > > > changes are in the main source tree, it means that Apple's code
> > > > > is maintained and improved by the community, and Apple can use
> > > > > later versions of the software in Mac OS X without having to
> > > > > reincorporate its modifications. Everyone wins. This kind of
> > > > > thing wouldn't work with GPL; Apple tries to keep the closed
> > > > > and open parts of OS X separate, but Apple still couldn't use
> > > > > GPLed code in its proprietary OS without serious potential
> > > > > licensing issues. A major corporation just can't risk that.
> > > >
> > > > Apple could make the kernel GPL. MacOS X (and NEXTSTEP) is a very
> > > > modular system.
> > >
> > > GPL does not permit linking proprietary software against GPLed
> > > libraries. This would make things tricky.
> >
> > Use the lesser GPL.
>
> But then Apple can't mix in GPL code, so what's the point?
>
> [snip]
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
An architect's first work is apt to be spare and clean. He
knows he doesn't know what he's doing, so he does it carefully and with
great restraint.
As he designs the first work, frill after frill and
embellishment after embellishment occur to him. These get stored away
to be used "next time". Sooner or later the first system is finished,
and the architect, with firm confidence and a demonstrated mastery of
that class of systems, is ready to build a second system.
This second is the most dangerous system a man ever designs.
When he does his third and later ones, his prior experiences will
confirm each other as to the general characteristics of such systems,
and their differences will identify those parts of his experience that
are particular and not generalizable.
The general tendency is to over-design the second system, using
all the ideas and frills that were cautiously sidetracked on the first
one. The result, as Ovid says, is a "big pile".
-- Frederick Brooks, "The Mythical Man Month"
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux web pads?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:31:01 -0500
Ian Pulsford wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >
> >
> > Until they learn to ask simple questions, such as "Why in the fuck
> > would ANYBODY want to stand in front of the refrigerator to compose
> > and E-mail message", they will remain "Popular Adolescent Fantasies".
> >
> > Like the hovercraft thing...how many of these shitheads ever
> > ask themselves "Duh...would *I* buy one of those?...Is there
> > *anybody* I know who would by one of those?"
> >
>
> They don't, but they may want instant access to recipes from the net.
>
The point is...why does "Popular Sci^H^H^HAdolescent Fantasies"
keep printing this bullshit? What does that have to do with
"recipies on the net" ??
There have been plans for hovercraft for DECADES....and,
outside of the military, and that Chanel-crossing thing,
how many have you seen?
> IanP
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:34:34 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Edward Rosten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : No, but it is open source and existed before the IBM PC. If IBM had not
> : `open sourced ' the PC open source software would still be very much with
> : us.
>
> The PC was never "open sourced" but the BIOS was clean-room reverse
> engineered. What the competitor did was take the BIOS machine code, translated
> it to English, and had a separate programmer translate the English into
> machine code. That way, no original code was infringed making the hacked BIOS
> a separate work altogether.
How much do you want to bet that Microsoft NEVER bothers with
doing true clean-room implementations.
>
> Once one company succeeded, others duplicated the success, resulting in
> competition in the PC market.
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft says Linux threatens innovation
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:35:26 -0500
mlw wrote:
>
> Bloody Viking wrote:
> >
> > Edward Rosten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > : No, but it is open source and existed before the IBM PC. If IBM had not
> > : `open sourced ' the PC open source software would still be very much with
> > : us.
> >
> > The PC was never "open sourced" but the BIOS was clean-room reverse
> > engineered. What the competitor did was take the BIOS machine code, translated
> > it to English, and had a separate programmer translate the English into
> > machine code. That way, no original code was infringed making the hacked BIOS
> > a separate work altogether.
>
> I'm not sure of the exact terminology, bit the original PC was "open source."
> They released the schematics and the source code to the bios. Anyone could
> inspect the hardware design and the source of the bios.
>
> The problem is that it was not GPL or public domain. It remained the copyright
> of IBM. Phoenix created copyright law by perfecting the "clean room" as a
> defensible position. One knowledgeable group reads the copyrighted material and
> creates documentation. The "pure" group interprets the produced documentation
> and writes "new" code, which is compatible.
This was down with BSD, also, to remove the AT&T code.
>
> --
> http://www.mohawksoft.com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:36:08 GMT
Emery Lapinski wrote:
>
> "Information wants to be free" is just a metaphor, a different way
> of thinking that can lead to insights. If you could visulaize
> information you might see it ebb and flow and expand. It might flow
> around obstructions or leak out of containers. You might watch it
> and attribute behaviors to it, and a will, and imagine that it
> wants to be free.
>
> Other examples are memetics or "selfish genes".
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.panix.com/~ewl/
> This post is Copyright 2000 Emery Lapinski and is distributed under the terms
> and conditions of GNU's General Public License.
> It's what the astronauts drink!
That's true. I was never too comfortable with the metaphor, either.
Only people can express a will, or have rights. Information can only be
free if those owning it agree to free it.
--
An architect's first work is apt to be spare and clean. He
knows he doesn't know what he's doing, so he does it carefully and with
great restraint.
As he designs the first work, frill after frill and
embellishment after embellishment occur to him. These get stored away
to be used "next time". Sooner or later the first system is finished,
and the architect, with firm confidence and a demonstrated mastery of
that class of systems, is ready to build a second system.
This second is the most dangerous system a man ever designs.
When he does his third and later ones, his prior experiences will
confirm each other as to the general characteristics of such systems,
and their differences will identify those parts of his experience that
are particular and not generalizable.
The general tendency is to over-design the second system, using
all the ideas and frills that were cautiously sidetracked on the first
one. The result, as Ovid says, is a "big pile".
-- Frederick Brooks, "The Mythical Man Month"
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:36:11 -0500
Ziya Oz wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> No, I'm thinking of "free" software, as I described it. It's the GPL zealots
> >> who pollute the language with their double speak. Why should we let them
> >> decide what "free" is?
> >
> > Free: unencumbered; having liberty.
>
> GPL is perfectly encumbered. (reasons have been discussed here already)
>
It's the would-be-plagiarist who is encumbered, not the code.
> > Where's the double speak?
>
> Above.
>
> ****
> Ziya
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:35:01 +0200
"John Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >
> >
> > According to convetion, I would assume that he, like most people, think
that
> > about free software as *free*.
> > IE, cost no money.
> > YMMV, but that is what I think when I see the word free.
>
> So, your right to free speech is the right to not pay to speak?
>
> When Lincoln freed the slaves, he was merely marking down their cost?
I see free, I usually think no money, mainly because my native language
doesn't neccecarily tie free (no money) & free (liberty) together.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:42:35 -0500
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Peter Hayes wrote:
> > >
> > > On 19 Feb 2001 01:41:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > The "information wants to be free" idea comes from the GNU
> > > > ideology as well as freeware crypto with PGP. PGP is "Pretty Good
> > > > Privacy", data encryption strong enough that even the most
> > > > resource posessing rogue government (i.e. the US government)
> > > > can't crack it.
> > >
> > > Unlike the UK where you get 2 years in jail if you don't provide
> > > the most fascist government in decades (if ever, and that includes
> > > Thatcher) with
> >
> > Leftist socialism is merely fascism in disguise.
> >
> > That's what you get for electing the Labour party.
>
> I can't say I follow UK politics too well, but I doubt that's the
> problem. The problem is that a government typically operates at or
> slightly beyond the legal limits of its authority. With no full
> equivalent of the US Constitution to restrict its powers, the UK
> government can get away with more, and does.
True. And the public demand that Parliament outlaw handguns
will, in the final analysis, prove to be the key step which
costs British subjects even the appearance of freedom.
Look at what happened in Waco...DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF FIREARMS
IN THE HANDS OF CITIZENS, nutcase bureaucrats were stymied for
close to 3 months.
Remember the 4 BATF agents who died on the first day?
Armor piercing bullets. The only people who had access to
that kind of ammunition was....you guessed it...the BATF
and FBI.
The Army National Guard helicopters (which were brought into
the picture on the basis of fraudulent affadavits by government
agents) were carrying normal anti-personnel rounds (4 normal,
one tracer, no armor piercing)
brougt into
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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