Linux-Advocacy Digest #700, Volume #30 Wed, 6 Dec 00 23:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: Blurry Fonts: Is there a solution? (Swango)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Blurry Fonts: Is there a solution? (Swango)
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. (Swango)
Re: Of course, there is a down side... ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Of course, there is a down side... (JoeX1029)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! (Russ Lyttle)
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. (Terry Porter)
Re: Linux is awful (Cybe R. Wizard)
Re: Red hat becoming illegal? (kiwiunixman)
Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS ("the_blur")
Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS ("the_blur")
Re: Christmas Virus Warning (Russ Lyttle)
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Linux is awful (Bob Hauck)
Re: Of course, there is a down side... (Bob Hauck)
Re: Windows review (Goldhammer)
Re: Of course, there is a down side... (Swango)
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From: Swango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Blurry Fonts: Is there a solution?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:24:45 GMT
So prove me wrong Geek!!!
Swango
On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:53:03 -0500, "Dennis Popov"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Swango, you ignorant moron! Why don't you go troll alt.gay.rights or
>something?
>Swango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Which one?
>>
>> There seem to be thousands on the net. But of course there is no
>> problem, now is there?
>>
>> Swango
>>
>>
>> On 7 Dec 2000 01:36:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 23:28:12 GMT, tom wrote:
>> >
>> >See the font HOWTO, esp the part about Netscape
>>
>> "It Don't Mean a Thang if it Ain't Got That Swang"
>
"It Don't Mean a Thang if it Ain't Got That Swang"
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:25:51 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On 5 Dec 2000 23:42:45 GMT, Steve Mading
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >(To tholen)
> >
> >Okay we agree, it seems, that intuativeness is purely relative
> >to what is already known. In the case of Vi, it only appears
> >unintuative if you are used to some other editor first. This I
> >agree with. What you don't seem to get is that it works the
>
> In order to launch vi you hit the 'v' key and then the 'i' key. The
> result is that you see a 'v' appear on the screen, the cursor moves
> one space to the right, followed by an 'i' appearing and the cursor
> giving a repeat performance.
>
> Try doing the same thing a second later after vi has been launched.
> It doesn't work.
>
> Forget about any GUI based editors. Vi is counter-intuitive when
> presented in its natural environment. It would be counter-intuitive
> to any person who has had frequent exposure to a command prompt. Your
> average Unix user is an example of this.
Not at all. My unix command prompt supports vi-style editing and is
thus perfectly intuitive.
Les Mikesell
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From: Swango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Blurry Fonts: Is there a solution?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:26:10 GMT
I'll save you the time, it doesn't work.
You still don't get the smooth anti-aliased looking fonts that you do
under Windows.
Linux is painful to look at, nevermind even worse to use.
Swango
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 02:43:15 GMT, tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <90mofc$dt5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "kosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> That is the Font Deuglification Mini Howto unfortunately the geforce
>> drivers are broken if you use the ones from nvidia so they will not
>use
>> 100dpi fonts which makes a very big difference.
>>
>> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU/index.html
>
>I thought you were being sarcastic or, at the very least, making a joke
>with "Font Deuglification Mini Howto". I can't believe there's
>actually one called that! :0
>
>In checking out your link, it appears this might be exactly what I
>need, but I'm going to copy down the link and check it out later (after
>work) at home, where I can go online in Mandrake and do the stuff in
>real-time.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Tom
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
"It Don't Mean a Thang if it Ain't Got That Swang"
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From: Swango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:28:27 GMT
Windows 3.1?
Like I said, do you have running water where you come from?
Swango
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 16:15:42 +1300, kiwiunixman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>OS, ok then, I'll use my Zip 1000 USB drive with Windows 3.11, ooops, I
>can't.
>
"It Don't Mean a Thang if it Ain't Got That Swang"
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Of course, there is a down side...
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:33:01 GMT
"JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Anyone remember DOS edit? Now, was that a pile of piss or what that a
> pile of piss?
No, no, edit is one of the best things Microsoft ever did. You must
be thinking of edlin. Try telling someone over the phone how to
fix a dos config.sys file with edlin when they have never used a
keyboard before.
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JoeX1029)
Date: 07 Dec 2000 03:32:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Of course, there is a down side...
>Anyone remember DOS edit? Now, was that a pile of piss or what that a
>pile of piss?
Big Pile O' Piss
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From: Russ Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:34:35 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Russ Lyttle writes:
>
> >> Steve Mading writes:
>
> >>>> Why are you citing evidence that destroys your argument, Aaron?
> >>>> Familiarity (or experience, to use my word for it) does not have
> >>>> to be universal before something can be declared "intuitive".
> >>>> Here's a good rule of thumb: if you need to consult the manual,
> >>>> it's not intuitive.
>
> >>> Everyone has to "consult the manual" (or a friend, or the on-line
> >>> help) at some point early in their learning process.
>
> >> I know some first-time computer users that did not need to consult
> >> the manual or a friend to know what to do with the power cord, for
> >> example.
>
> > I have earned a lot of money plugging in power cords for people.
>
> Congratulations. I know people who replace water heaters, and they
> also plug in the power cord for customers while installing the
> replacement appliance.
>
> > The first electronics job I had was making calls to fix TV sets.
>
> Not to install them? Televisions that hadn't yet been used don't
> usually require fixing.
>
Both. The most common was after the set was at home. Most people, by
that time, were trying to install the sets themselves.
> > About half the time the problem was the power cord wasn't plugged in.
>
> But was it because they didn't know that it had to be plugged in, or
> had it accidently become unplugged without them knowing it? There's
> a big difference there. I've seen it happen to people many times.
>
They didn't know all the subtilities of operating a power cord. Plug it
in all the way. Unplug it before moving the set. If the light doesn't
come on check the power cord. That sort of thing.
> > I learned very quickly not to just plug in the cord and send a bill
> > for $50. I would futz around a while, take the back off, look intent.
> > Then put the back on and plug it in.
>
> You're admitting to what some people would consider a "dishonest"
> service call?
>
No. They got charged the same, the fee for one hour service call. I just
decided not to upset them by pointing out that they didn't know how to
operate a power cord.
> > When PCs came out, there were more power cords not to be plugged in
> > and thus more business.
>
> Some people prefer to have experts install new gizmos for them.
> Doesn't mean that they don't have the intuition to plug it in for
> themselves.
>
But that doesn't mean the power cord is all that "intutive" either.
> >>>SNIP<<
--
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 07 Dec 2000 03:32:33 GMT
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 01:10:53 GMT, Swango
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:39:03 +1300, kiwiunixman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Why didn't you read the instructions? Why did you install the server
>>option when clearly you needed the desktop setup option? What version of
>>Redhat were you using? Have you tried any other distro (I find SuSE
>>better in all respects)? Why didn't you use the customised installation?
>
>I thought server option meant it was going to install server programs
>like Apache and Samba and so forth. Unfortunately the minute you
>select it your hard drive is gone. No warning at all.
"Claire/heather/Keys88/Amy/Steve/S/Swango" is full of it today!
>
>
>
>
>>USB and cordless mice. Question, how many users out in computer land do
>>you believe have a cordless mouse? very few and far between, Linux is
>>built for the mass's, not the minority with the most obscure hardware,
>>and if you want support, why don't you contribute to the source code?
>
>
>You are kidding right?
Nope your the one thats kidding
"Steve/Heather/Keys88/Claire_lynn/Amy/Swango"
>
>Obscure hardware is some LaserJet circa 1988 that Linux will probably
>work with. Take a look at ANY computer catalog and tell me USB is not
>popular.
>What rock are you living under?
Cheap emotional ploy Wintroll.
>
>One other thing, you say Linux is built for the "mass's"? What
>"mass's" might this be? I don't see anyone using Linux at all on their
>desktop.
You dont see much of anything at all
"Steve/Heather/Keys88/Claire_lynn/Amy/Swango"
> One last thing, you expect the "mass's" to contribute to the
>source code?
They are, thats why Freshmeat usually lists a few hundred new or updated
programs daily, all free!!!!!
>You certainly are out of touch with reality.
Hahgahaha gasp, spluter, hack .... oh boy I needed that!
>
>Tell me, do they have running water where you come from?
Yeah probably, but the more is amazing thing is he has no BSOD's (theyre
blue like water :)
>
>
>>Did you check the HCL USB devices? It is a very well known fact that
>>these are not supported under linux (apart from a few USB mice), my
>>advice, wait until 2.4.0 comes out.
>Why should I have to check anything?
>All of my hardware is non Win specific and works fine under Windows
>2000. My printer and scanner and camera work fine on my PowerBook as
>well.
>
>> Are you delusional about the speed
>>when using kde?
>
>It's sluggish and looks like crap to boot.
Thanks but we already know this about Windows.
>
>
>> I have a Pentium III 550 (Coppermine) w/ 128MB Ram,
>>10gig HDD, SB Live! Value, TNT2 32MB AGP and a 40x cdrom, I am running
>>KDE2, and it fly's on my hardware configuration.
>
>Maybe you are using a terminal window to contribute to that source
>code?
"Steve/Heather/Keys88/Claire_lynn/Amy/Swango" thinks 'source code'
is something you get on your hamburger.
>
>>Have you tried it? I have, and believe me, after 1 year in the great
>>Microsoft think-tank I thought they might of actually come out with
>>something a little more revolutionary.
>
>I have not tried it on my system, but I have run it on a similar
>system.
The old 4meg ram/486 you 'learn' about the slownes of Linux running X on ?
>
>Linux has been put back 5 years again.
Only in this Wintrolls delusional mind!
>
>>Why would it? the only way to screw hardware under any OS is to have ya
>>screen refresh rate too high.
>
>Pretty easy to do with Linux as well. Just select custom for monitor
>and smell the smoke.
Or not have the monitor listed on the Windows choices and choose a 'similar'
sounding model, as you have no finer control with Windows.
>
>
>>Same with my copy of Windows 95B (I sold my copy of Winblows 2000 Pro)
>
>Good for you.
Yeah I sold my Windows CD too :)
>
>>>
>>> I can see why Linux is free, because they would never get out of court
>>> if they charged people for this tripe.
>>No, I paid for my copy of Linux ($NZ189.95), and it is worth every
>>penny. Wake up and smell the coffee sonny, I have been using computers
>>longer than have been on this earth for, and because one whippersnapper
>>like you cannot handle a real OS and then go off and cry at COLA to
>>prove some anecdotal fable. Go back to you sheltered life under the
>>window whilst the rest of society moves forward.
>
>I'm not the one who thinks cordless mice and USB are not popular.
No thatl be me :)
>
>You PAID for Linux?
Steve doesnt pay, like all good Windows lemmings he *steals* his software,
causehe doesnt make enuf money to pay the high prices they want.
Of course most of what Steve needs has always been available for free with
Linux, but some people just never get a clue!
>
>Damm fool...
Pot kettle, dark black, Wintroll ...
>
>>kiwiunixman
>
>
>Swango
>"It Don't Mean a Thang Unless Steve's Wintrolling"
--
Kind Regards
Terry
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From: Cybe R. Wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:33:42 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Was it only Wed, 06 Dec 2000 20:15:30 -0500, when "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> offered:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 16:03:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Actually most of these posts are coming from experience, the vast majority of
>> >Linux people have Windows experience.
>>
>> In that case, the people who keep posting that Windows won't run for
>> more than a few days at a time are lying, instead of ignorant.
>
>There are days when I'm lucky if windows even runs for a few HOURS.
>
>DAYS????? What, are you on fucking CRACK or something?
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Stephen Whitis
My Win95 system often runs for 4-5 days without a reboot. Often it
will run 20-30 minutes and crash. No, I don't turn it off at night!
I just don't run other M$ programs (except IE) if I can help it.
Until I can switch to Linux (or BeOS) full time I'll use Forte's Agent
for e-mail so I don't let Linux (or BeOS) run for days.
After several days up the Win95 system starts to act really buggy and
you can almost count the minutes 'til reboot time.
But it still NEEDS that reboot.
Fairly regularly.
My wife runs Win98 on a Winbook laptop.
It'll run for a max of about 4 hours before sticking (erratic mouse
movement, takes forever to switch between apps) then crashing.
This on a system conf. for Win98.
Hell, Linux even has made my Windows experience better by causing me
to get a real modem.
Cybe R. Wizard
--
cyberwizard
@
cyberwizardstower.com
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From: kiwiunixman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red hat becoming illegal?
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:35:44 GMT
The are actually 2 other companies that are under investigation by the
DOJ, American Airlines, Mastercard and Visa.
Under the American Airlines investigation it is alledged that American
airlines would, when a new carrier would enter into the domestic market,
reduce the price to the point where the smaller carrier cannot sustain
the loss's, once the smaller player is out of the market, American
Airlines increase's there fares back to the original price.
Microsoft vs. DOJ: Microsoft would price Windows 3.11 below the price of
OS/2 Warp, then once OS/2 exited off the radar, Microsoft raised the
price of Windows 3.11 back to original, pre-competition price, by this
time, developers had already been pulled over to Windows, hence, IBM was
screwed.
I donot know the anti-trust law, however under the New Zealand Commerce
Act, they have broken the law:
Abuse of a dominant position (section 36)
A dominant firm which uses its market power to 'shut out' other players
risks breaching the Commerce Act. In general, the Commerce Act is
breached if a company dominant in one market uses its power to prevent
competition either in that market or in any other market.
Dominance in terms of the Commerce Act relates to market power. A
dominant firm is one whose behaviour is largely unconstrained by the
actual or potential responses of other market participants, so that it
has the ability to act largely independently of them. For example, it
would be able to increase its prices by an appreciable amount above the
competitive level, and for a sustained period, without fear of losing
significant market share. The Commerce Act requires that, in assessing
whether a firm has a dominant position in a market, regard should be had
to its market share, technical knowledge and access to materials or
capital; any constraints on its behaviour exercised by competitors or
potential competitors; and the constraint exercised by suppliers or
buyers in the market. A high market share is one condition needed for
dominance. A firm cannot be dominant if it faces significant
competitors, including competition from imports.
The Commerce Act does not prohibit a company being in a dominant
position in a market. A dominant position could have been gained before
the introduction of the Commerce Act, or through legislation, or through
highly desirable behaviour, such as utilising skill, foresight and
industry to become more efficient than its rivals. The Commerce Act
does, however, prohibit a company using a dominant position to
restrict entry to any market; prevent or deter competition; eliminate
anyone from a market.
kiwiunixman
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From: "the_blur" <the_blur_oc@*removespamguard*hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:09:12 -0500
> If I had the amount of money he had I'd donate MUCH more than that.
Talk is cheap.
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From: "the_blur" <the_blur_oc@*removespamguard*hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: LINUX ROCKS AND WINDOWS SUCKS
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:17:30 -0500
> Maybe he is nice, maybe not. I never met him. But when you're as rich
> as The Bill, the tax man wanteth a lot. You can give it to him to
> spend it on what the government likes, or you can give it away to
> charities that you like. Most people would prefer to do that latter I
> think. So there are in fact incentives for philantropy in our mondo
> captialist utopia.
I completely Agree. My point about the guy stands though. I mean, I don't
like windows any more than I have to, I don't even mind when people say
windows is crap or whatever, but when they assasinate the character of a guy
that donates so much money to charities, I have a problem. Sure, he's a
vicious buisnessman, but that's what buisness is about. If I were in charge,
I'd be so vicious I'd make per-processor licenses seem like your mother's
milk.
I firmly believe that buisness is basically a civilized form of war, and I'm
not out there to play nice with my competitors. I'm there to utterly crush
them into dust.
And yes, I'd donate to my chosen charities a hell of a lot sooner than
loosening my wallet to Uncle Sam.
Cheers! =)
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From: Russ Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Christmas Virus Warning
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:42:21 GMT
David Dorward wrote:
>
> Nigel wrote:
>
> > Our IT dept. have received a Virus warning this morning.The virus
> > appears as a file attachment called Navidad which is part of an
> > e-christmas card.
> > If you receive such an e-mail please do not open it!
>
> Why? Does it affect Linux users?! :)
It contains a message telling you to switch to Linux and how to undo the
damage if you are smart enough.
--
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:43:52 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:vsoX5.15026$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Les Mikesell writes:
>
> >>> You don't have to specifically learn "d$" to synthesize if
> >>> from previous knowledge.
>
> >> What previous knowledge tells you the function of "d$"?
>
> > It would be a special case only if it is the first vi command
> > you see.
>
> Well, it's been a while, but I suspect that the first vi commands
> I saw were i, Esc, and ZZ. That made d$ still a special case.
It is too bad you didn't have a reference that shows the pattern
from the beginning. You should learn u and U first so you don't
worry about mistakes, then the pattern, then the commands
and things you can use to describe the motions. It is not a
matter of remembering all possible combinations as special
cases.
> > Vi commands are virtually always in the form:
> > [count] command [where]
> > You probably already know that [count] means an optional
> > number can precede a command as a repeat count or as
> > a rare special case if the command is G, the number specifies
> > an absolute line number.
>
> Assuming that you remember that you're in command mode.
Hit escape if you aren't sure. Now you are. You could probably
write a reference sheet for vi that prefixed every command
with escape and then say is isn't modal (it really isn't except
for ex mode, because insert is a command too). But, the command
set would then be just weird as emacs.
> > Thus as you need and learn the
> > different command letters and ways to describe the optional
> > [where] you don't need to relearn arbitrary new ways to
> > combine them.
>
> $ still can mean either end of line or end of file. Only the
> "end" portion is consistent.
It is consistent with being the end of the type of motion command
you gave.
Almost the only inconsistent thing is that the original vi did not
accept a count prefix for 'r'.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:43:41 GMT
On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:49:58 -0500, Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Windows stability has steadily improved. Win2k is presently very stable
>and will easily hold its own in most user contexts.
I've found that lately I just don't care what MS wants to sell me. And
I find myself strangely disinterested in spending $300 to get something
that might be almost as good as what I've already got.
Well, actually, it would be a lot more than $300 since none of my home
computers meet the minimum spec for W2K, and some of them aren't even
that old. About 30% of the ones at the office don't either, which
might explain management's lack of enthusiasm for W2K.
Linux works fine, it does what I need, I'm comfortable with it, and the
price is right. I can live without fading menus.
>WinME is more stable than it's predecessors but still admittedly
>unacceptably stable for heavy use (multi-tasking) and where long uptimes
>are a must..
So I guess I have even less interest in WinME then.
>The reboot rate for software installations have been drastically reduced
>in Win2k.
Whatever...<big yawn>. Today I installed an update on the upstairs
machine while my son was using it. I was sitting in the living room
with my laptop. I've been doing this for years, without having wait
for MS to invent remote logins or pay extra for the "server version".
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Of course, there is a down side...
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:43:42 GMT
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 00:01:35 GMT, JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Anyone remember DOS edit? Now, was that a pile of piss or what that a
>pile of piss?
Well, yes, it was bad. But it could edit bigger files than Notepad.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Goldhammer)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows review
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:51:52 GMT
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 02:54:55 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Grandpappy could care less about the command line. From the GUI, he can do
>all his work, he can copy, rename, print, delete, backup and restore files,
>he can browse the web, he can get e-mail and news, he can do every single
>task he actually needs to do. So what benefit is there in learning the
>command line for him?
What are you trying to prove with this argument?
--
Don't think you are. Know you are.
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From: Swango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Of course, there is a down side...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:53:05 GMT
On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 03:33:01 GMT, "Les Mikesell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>be thinking of edlin. Try telling someone over the phone how to
>fix a dos config.sys file with edlin when they have never used a
>keyboard before.
>
Try telling them to do the same thing using vi.
Good luck..
Swango
"It Don't Mean a Thang if it Ain't Got That Swang"
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